EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Garth Hjelte wrote:
> This was the part of the mystery that I didn't get. How is it that hi-hats
> played polyphonically sound better? Doesn't that mean there are two sets of
> hi-hats (which in a drum kit isn't the case)?

*Any* ringing one shot sample will sound better when being polyphonic.
Best example might be a cymbal or triangle. You usually hit them hart at some accents and continue playing them softly between those
accents. It's not as if the loud ringing cymbal would stop all of a sudden, just because you hit it softly.
Just give it a try, you can use any ride cymbal and play a typical swing pattern with a few rather hard accents. When being
monophonic it will instantly sound like crap.
You do need mute groups for those as well, as you may want to emulate hand stops. This simply won't work properly with the EXS (and
with a lot of other samplers it won't either). Ah well, the beauty of DR-008...

> Standard "mute-groups" work like this under the hood: every sample
> reference assigned to a mutegroup only gets one voice for allocation. They
> cut each other off. If you a two sample references assigned to the same
> mutegroup assigned to the same key, only one will play. Pretty simple.

See Steve (Hollowsun)'s comment. Apparently the AKAI is offering polyphony for single keys routed to exclusive groups.
The (simple) problem being that on the EXS the mute group functionality is based on polyphony (or limiting polyphony, for the
matter) instead of being a note-based feature - which is what the DR-008 (and apparently AKAIs too) is doing.

Should be something VERY easy to adress, yet most sampler developers simply don't care.
When I requested this to be changed during the DR-008 beta test it took Angus like half an hour to implement it into the sampler
modules. When I requested this to be changed in the EXS it took like, hm... 5(?) years and still hasn't been implemented. And no,
it's nothing esoteric or whatever, it's just how every sampler should work like.

- Sascha