EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi,
I get the same error message (-10011) on my G3 
400 laptop with the VX pocket.  When I look at the 
activity on the CPU meter...it's loafing.  The audio 
processor seems to be working pretty hard but I 
don't think I'm runing enough through the system 
to cause that kind of load.

I have 23 instances of the EXS open but only 
seven active at the point in question...all 
mono...and one additional stereo audio track.  
One plugin on Bus 1-2...silververb.  If i'm not 
mistaken, I used to be able to play at least twice 
the number of audio tracks.  Any ideas?

Also...and please bear with me.  Realizing that the 
tracks of the EXS contain midi info, is there any 
way to bounce them like you can actual audio 
tracks?  I'm trying to streamline the audio output 
for obvious reasons.  

Thanks
Julie



> > I have almost the same exact setup and 
almost the same 
> exact problem.  If
> > you show the System Performance meter 
during playback, you 
> will see that
> > your system is running hard the whole time.
> > 
> > I used to get a large number of tracks before 
4.0 and plugins, 
> so my
> > assumption is that these plug-ins are much 
more taxing to our 
> older upgraded
> > computers than anyone imagines.  Your 10k 
rpm drive, though, 
> is probably not
> > being taxed at all, because it's affected mainly 
by tracks, and 
> the plug-ins
> > are keeping you from running very many tracks 
at all.  Check 
> the system
> > performance meter to verify that this is true.
> > 
> > The audio engine is the software module that 
manages 
> playback of audio, and
> > its performance is affected by CPU speed, PCI 
bus speed and 
> driver
> > efficiency.  So yes, your driver may not be the 
best (my Core2 
> isn't
> > either), but given the system you are working 
on, it's more likely 
> that CPU
> > and PCI Bus speed are the culprits.
> > 
> > I've never used PT, but my understanding is 
that all the audio is 
> handled on
> > the mix cards or farm cards or whatever, 
making very few 
> demands on your G3
> > CPU.
> > 
> > But if you're just counting tracks, I'll bet you 
could get close to 
> 20
> > tracks of audio with LAM on the 7500/G3 if you 
weren't using 
> plugins.
> > 
> > Ultimately, I decided to buy a new G4.  It hasn't 
arrived yet, so I 
> can't
> > tell you if that solved the problem, but ask me 
in a week, and I'll 
> give you
> > the run-down.
> > 
> > Until then, here are some ghastly 
workarounds that will keep 
> you functional
> > - frustrated, but functional:
> > 
> > 1:  Use busses as often as possible, to 
reduce the number of 
> plug-ins
> > running simultaneously.
> > 2:  Avoid lots of short audio regions.  Turning 
on and off 
> playback for
> > tracks causes spikes in the cpu load, so your 
errors are 
> probably happening
> > at points where a new audio file is starting.  If 
you've got a 
> bunch of
> > short regions on the same track, try merging 
them so that the 
> track is
> > constantly "on".
> > 3:  Bounce frequently.  This is especially true if 
you are using 
> power hogs
> > like AutoTune and reverbs.   Even if it's only 1 
track with 
> something like
> > auto-tune, you can unburden your CPU 
substantially by  
> "printing" the effect
> > through bounce and then turning it off.
> > 
> > I suggest playing around with different 
plug-ins while watching 
> the CPU
> > meter.  This will tell you which ones are the 
biggest hogs.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Gregory
> > 
> > From: TelkomSA409 <cyclops@t...>
> > Reply-To: LA-Mac@y...
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:08:03 -0700
> > To: LA-Mac@y...
> > Subject: [LA-Mac] Erro code?!
> > 
> > 
> > I am runing logic 4.5 on a power mac 7500 
with a G3 card 
> (cresendo) 128 ram
> > and 10000rpm scsi drive with DIGI001 for 
sound card,
> > if i play  5 or 6 tracks of audio with 3-4  plug ins 
(not reverbe 
> plug ins)
> > logic stops and i constantly get " direct 
i/o:system overload,the 
> audio
> > engine was not able to process all required 
data in time ,error 
> -10011"
> >    - what does  mean the audio engine?????
> >    - I do not think that so litle track can not be 
read by logic,
> and 
> that
> > my computer does not handle it ,because i 
can play up to 24 
> track on pro
> > tools!
> > Any sugestions........,is it the sound card wich 
doesn't  work well 
> with
> > logic or my processor ?
> > If any body can explained me why,and what 
can i do to improv 
> the
> > performance???????????
> > 
> > 
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