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Re: [exs] Tip: songbased EXS instruments

2001-11-03 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

I thought this has already been out?! Seems like I've read this on the list
for Logic 4.7...

> From: David Tobin <wowandflutter@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 20:17:08 +0000
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] Tip: songbased EXS instruments
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I just learned about a function which actually updates your file references
> when copying audiofiles (I allways thought this was impossible and a major
> EXS drawback).
> 
> First of, very often you might like to have some songbased EXS instruments,
> this can be useful for backups, but even more, it will allow you to
> destructively edit samples without altering the source ones.
> Now let's assume you have a "basic" drumset, to be found in your generic
> "Sampler Instruments" folder (subfolder of Logics program folder) - but, in
> your current song the snare doesn't fit too well so you might wanna edit it
> a bit, of course without loosing the original sample.
> Here's what you can do:
>> - Open it in the EXS editor.
>> - Select "Instrument > Copy Audiofiles"
>> 2 new subfolders will be created inside your songfolder, one named
>> "sampler instruments", another one named as the source instrument,
>> containing all the required samples.
>> - Eventually you will have to do a "refresh" (4th entry in the EXS
>> instrument pulldown, only appearing after you copied something), after that
>> a new entry on top of the instrument list will appear, named as the loaded
>> song. Your copied instrument will be in there.
>> - You could now crosscheck by loading the instrument, editing it and editing
>> one sample. After that (in your audio window) you will be able to see that
>> the files refer to the songs subfolder.
> 
>> Now you can just edit the samples as much as you like.
>> Unfortunately I still haven't found a way of automatically refreshing the
>> EXS Ram content which would be necessary once I edit a file in an external
>> SampleEditor. So far I think the only way is to close the EXS completely and
>> reopen it.
>> The above described tip is pretty much worth a lot for me anyways.
> 
>> Regards,
>> Sascha
> 
> Sascha, 
> 
> I have just come back from the Music Live exhibition, which for non UK users
> is a trade show which gave us our only chance to see Logic 5, and all the
> new stuff.
> 
> I also picked up some useful info about EXS sample management - The most
> important part is this:
> 
> In the EXS part of the key commands, there is a function which says
> something like "Save instruments and sample with song"
> 
> What you do is this:  You have a folder named xyz and a song inside it named
> exactly the same (xyz) and if you use this command, two folders are created
> inside the song folder, one called sampler instruments and one called Akai
> samples.
> 
> These then can be backed up with the song files - but the real bonus is
> this:
> 
> When you reload the song - Provided the song is still in the same folder,
> you don't need to move the Akai sampler folder or any shortcut or reference
> to it - It is found automatically. This means that there is an easy way to
> save instruments and samples with for each song!!!!!!
> 
> As far as the other stuff that we saw - It was very interesting to see the
> new version - Automation looks great and will give protools a run for its
> money.  The 3 new included synths look and sound really special.
> There is an ES mono (monophonic synth) an ES poly and an ES ensemble.  They
> all have that similar new look and they sound really fat.
> 
> The ES2 was..... WOW !!!! That's all i can say - it was flexible, easy to
> use, with a host of features and sounded unbelievable.
> Other things of note were the new Multiband compressor and particularly the
> EVOC.   I hadn't realised that this would be split into 3 different plug
> ins.
> 
> First you get an audio plug in, which goes on any audio track - and sounds
> fabulous and was really flexible - Much better than the orange vocoder.
> Second you get a version to put on an audio instrument, which is side
> chained to the audio, and allows you to play the notes you want via midi.
> The sounds can also be FM based which worked really well.
> Thirdly, you get 20 band filter banks - Which can morph between two
> different settings and sounded really warm.
> 
> The last point of note is a little OT - I was given a demonstration of
> Melodyne by Paul Whiffen, who writes apple notes for Sound on Sound.
> 
> It was incredible, but I couldn't hear much because of everything around us,
> so they have agreed to come up to our studio and give us a private demo in
> the next couple of weeks.
> When we have had it, I will report back with particular reference to its
> integration with logic.
> 
> All for now
> 
> David Tobin
> 
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