Hi Julie, You are absolutely correct in that this is a serious issue with the Logic/EXS approach. The two problems are that: 1. EXS isn't multitimbral and doesn't have Key switching. ..(which would be OK if you had more Audio Instrument Tracks...but...) 2. Logic doesn't have enough Audio instrument tracks to do this kind of work. Logic 5 will be increased to 32, but that's still almost nothing for doing orchestral work, where you have loads of patches set up all the time, and each one only plays a note here and there...which is how most composers now work with Gigastudio. (Of course, Cubase only has 8 audio instrument tracks....but Performer and Pro Tools is unlimited!) I've talked to the Germans about this, but they just don't seem to understand how composers work this way. It's one of the only reasons that Giga is so popular amongst composers. The EXS is a very good sampler, the concept of this virtual system is better suited to pop/techno music, than flexible enough for serious orchestral work. If the EXS was multitimbral like HALion is, (and streamed from disc)..that would solve a lot of these issues. Eric Persing Spectrasonics In a message dated 12/7/01 6:08:34 AM, julielarson@... writes: >Hi everyone, >I think there is something wrong with my >paradym about using sample libraries. >Take one like Advanced Orchestra where >there are gads of different attacks and >articulations for each instrument. It seems >like the pieces are there to build a plausibly >realistic sounding line...but it also seems >like since they are all in different patches >that it would require many different midi >channels to achieve this..a trill on one >channel, a half step slur on another, >section slides on another and of course >that one octave run...it could go on like this >until you didn't have any midi channels >left...what are you guys doing? > >I recently bought the Quantum Leap Rare >instruments library for Akai...it was originally >programed for Gigasampler using a lot of >key-switching and as a result was very >"user friendly" So... the low Irish Whistle >was a single 95 meg patch in >gigasampler...In the akai version it's about >30 different programs ...I understand the >reasoning behind this programming...but >my destination is the EXS and fat programs >aren't a problem if you have the ram. Is >key=switching something peculiar to >Gigasampler...or is that something that I >could recreate in the EXS....Or... please >send me to someplace where these >questions are more appropriate. Thanks > >julie >-- > >_______________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > >1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! > >http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://w ww.getpennytalk.com > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: <sentto-2063441-2353-1007734068-PersingEP=aol.com@...> >Received: from rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (rly-yd04.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.4]) >by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINYD11-1207090833; >Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:08:33 -0500 >Received: from n27.groups.yahoo.com (n27.groups.yahoo.com [216.115.96.77]) >by rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD410-1207090813; >Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:08:13 -0500 >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2063441-2353-1007734068-PersingEP=aol.com@... >Received: from [216.115.97.191] by n27.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 >Dec 2001 14:07:49 -0000 >X-Sender: julielarson@... >X-Apparently-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 7 Dec 2001 14:07:47 -0000 >Received: (qmail 11782 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2001 14:07:47 -0000 >Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) > by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2001 14:07:47 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.53) > by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2001 14:07:47 -0000 >Received: (qmail 15338 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Dec 2001 14:07:47 -0000 >Message-ID: <20011207140747.15337.qmail@...> >X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) >Received: from ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com for [208.180.231.97] via web-mailer > on Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:07:46 +0800 >To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >From: "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> >X-Yahoo-Profile: jadlarson >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Mailing-List: list exs-users@yahoogroups.com; contact exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >Delivered-To: mailing list exs-users@yahoogroups.com >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> >Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:07:46 +0800 >Subject: [exs] OT using sample libraries >Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >
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Re: [exs] OT using sample libraries
2001-12-07 by PersingEP@aol.com
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