EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi,

Alvaro wrote,
> So if I buy the permission I can\ufffdt sell it??
>

According to the licence agreement on the sample CD's when you buy them, No.

> How can Michael Jackson the buy all the Beatles permissions??

Michael Jackson actually bought the rights to the Beatles music.  It would
be the same thing as if you bought the rights to the samples for (to take a
Spectrasonics title) Symphony of Voices.  Then you could market the sample
CD Roms and sell them commercially.

What we're discussing here is not the full rights to the samples but,
rather, a licence to use them in a music production.

Say you bought a loops CD Rom like Spectrasonics' new Backbeat.  According
to how you see it, you could take one of the loops on it, put it on a loops
CD Rom that you create (actually more like compile rather than create) and
sell that.  Definitely illegal.

> But I still want an answer If I have an original sample CD can\ufffdt I change
it
> with someone else who bought an original sample CD???

According to the licence agreements on these CD's no.

Personally, I think that if piracy was not so widespread in the world, the
licence agreements would be much simpler and easier to understand.  They are
there in order to protect the manufacturer.  I really have a lot of respect
for such manufacturers as Ilio and Spectrasonics who create top-notch
CD-Roms which most of the time are playable and usable out of the box.  Most
people do not understand how much time and money goes into producing these.
This past summer I bought the Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Strings library from
Ilio.  A lot of programming went into it but, never mind the programming -
think about just the recording of the samples.  They had to hire a string
orchestra (some samples involve 24 violins!) and all of the musicians, not
to mention the orchestra hall to record it in, the engineers to do the
recording, etc.  I'm sure that it cost them thousands of dollars per day
just to record the samples.  At a price of $999, you're getting a deal.  My
opinion is just like if you want a Lexicon 960 or an Avalon mastering
compressor - if you can't afford it, you don't need it.

The manufacturers have a difficult enough time trying to catch people who
trade CD Roms and post them on newsgroups and whatnot.  They would have an
even more difficult time if they allowed trading of original CD's.  I would
really like to see a better way of licencing these myself and wish I had a
viable suggestion for the manufacturers so that users and manufacturers
would have an easier time.  We need a new model so people have less of a
reason to rationalize their theft of samples.  The difficult part is coming
up with what that model looks like.

Just MHO,
Fernando

p.s. - Don't think that just because you don't hear about it on CNN, doesn't
mean that there aren't people who are being prosecuted by sample
manufacturers for theft of their samples.  It is happening - it is just not
major news to the mass population.