EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

You guys have class!

> From: PersingEP@...
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:06:57 EST
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] Groove Control??
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> In a message dated 12/21/01 6:24:15 AM, eschaap@... writes:
> 
>> From what i've understood it works like recycle. Am I doing justice to
>> 
>> Groove Control or is there more involved? What't the difference between
>> a
>> 
>> REX library and Groove Control (when working with softsamplers)?
> 
> Nice to see all the interest here about Groove Control. I guess it is a bit
> off topic for the EXS forum, but I'm happy to answer this question.
> 
> Basically, the principle that ReCycle and Groove Control operate from is the
> same, but the results of Groove Control are much more "guaranteed". This is
> because Groove Control delivers the final patch and samples, where REX files
> basically have the marker info embedded with the audio file....but you have
> no guarantee of how well the cutting was done. The person who set-up the file
> could have done it very well or very poorly. If you check out some of the REX
> files out there you'll see what I mean. There are many issues that affect the
> end musical result that people often miss.
> 
> Where REX is basically a file format, Groove Control is a proprietary system
> of groove library development, that is currently only authorized for use by
> Spectrasonics and ILIO. It is less of a "technology" than it is more like a
> gourmet "recipe". We don't let any Groove Control products out that don't
> meet certain standards for musicality and technical excellence. Library
> developers must first train to master the process, before releasing anything
> with the Groove Control label.
> 
> Perhaps all of this sounds a bit like "Jedi-knight" training! Well, we aren't
> that crazy, but we do really care that the results of every Groove Control
> product meet the same set of standards. That way we can ensure that all the
> products that bear the Groove Control logo, will have the same results. All
> of the licensed Groove Control library developers regularly meet and exchange
> information on improving the Groove Control process and in how the products
> are presented, so that there is as much consistency as possible. Even small
> things like the naming of the files is standardized and easy to understand,
> where with REX libraries, you'll often find names that look like this (1-100
> 2+4N D.rx2)!
> 
> Also, while ReCycle 2 is an outstanding program (and one that I would highly
> recommend to anyone wishing to cut-up their own grooves), it doesn't work
> perfectly for every type of material. We use many different methods, a lot of
> "hand-tweaking" and some custom software tools to achieve consistently
> high-quality results on our Groove Control products. Another thing is that
> all Groove Control products are available in stereo, where REX files are
> divided between REX1 (mono) and REX2 (stereo).
> 
> Since it isn't a proprietary file format, Groove Control works with almost
> every kind of pro sampler and sequencer on the market that reads Akai S-3000
> format. The EXS24/Logic combo works particularly well for Groove Control.
> However, you do need some kind of sampler to use a Groove Control library,
> where REX files can be used directly in some host applications (Reason, Cuba
> se, Logic 5, etc).
> 
> Hope that explains the main differences between REX and Groove Control.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Eric Persing
> Creative Director
> Spectrasonics
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