EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

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>>EXS can replace a sound module IF you have the right CD's that are
>>_well-programmed_.
>>Finding CD's with sounds is easy. Finding well-programmed CD's that
>>makes use of most of the features of a sampler are much harder to find.
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>Name some titles please.
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Well, for example... I definitely prefer the guitars on "Pure Guitars" 
over any Roland XV or Korg Triton etc.

>Sample
>playback is not that complicated. I don't think the TR-Rack does anything
>special. The sounds are well produced though.
>
Depending on the sound, there might be much more going on than you 
think. I've seen how some of those ROM sets are created and I can tell 
you: a lot of programming goes into them.

>All the CDROM's I loaded into my CD3000XL (sounded crappy) were only basic
>multisamples. Are there CDrom libraries that use sampler parameters well.
>
Yes, a good example is XTreme analog mentioned in my previous mail.

> I
>didn't think it was that necessary or even used for stuff like pianos.
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Well, looping is of course important on piano CD's if the sample isn't 
long enough... but you're right: for piano playback, all sample 
libraries I know don't use any synth parameters. However, I'm 100% sure 
that in a ROMpler (XV, Triton), it's different: some synth parameters 
will be used.

> You
>wouldn't really use a filter on most instruments.
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Piano with high resonance and lowpass filter can be smooth too. ;-)))))))))

>I listen to songs old and new and want certain sounds I hear in my sound
>library. Like a piano from a particular reggae song (probably a DX7) or a
>pad etc etc.
>
Nothing will replace good ol' DX7 imo. :-))

> It would be a dream to be able to buy sample libraries of these
>sounds instead of hunting down and filling up ergonomic studio space with an
>old keyboard.
>
A lot of the power of a DX7 comes from its programming, so I wouldn't 
count on it to have a real-sounding DX7 on a sample CD. Anyway, DX7 is 
no ROMpler anyway.

> I presume that most of the time having the real thing gives
>you editing potential that having a multisample doesn't give.
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Very true! Although in case of DX7, editing is a nightmare. :-)

> I'm frustrated
>because my old MS20 sounds really good for fat synth bass but is non midi
>and my Nord Lead 2 is midi but doesn't have the pleasing fat distortion etc.
>
LOL. My MS20 and MS50 are back in their boxes for exactly the same 
reason. :-)))
We're spoiled with full midi support in current synths. But I fully 
agree: no synth/sample that I know, comes close to a MS20. Lovely synth.

>Maybe putting the nord through something would help.
>
The Nord's oscs sound digital. If you want real analog sound, there's 
only one thing: real analog.
You know what digital filter I really like (that also screams): the one 
Ohmforce offers for free. It's a VST plugin and I think it sounds terrific.

>I couldn't find a useable rhodes sound
>anywhere until I got the EVP88. Apparently the artful dodger 'rewind' song
>used the JV1080 for the rhodes and it is nice IMHO. SHeez how much memory
>does a JV1080 have?
>
:-)) Most current charts music uses JV, XV, Triton etc... It also 
depends on how you put it in the mix.
The guys from Artful Dodger are true arranging experts imo. By the way, 
you know that very nice Pulse Bass they used in Rewind? Well, ES2 can do 
it very easily and it sounds almost identical.

>I crave useable sounds. I still haven't found a way to organise my nords
>edited patches. Soundiver is difficult to learn IMO.
>
It's all about arranging. Most of today's "hit" producers only use 
presets anyway. :-(

Hope this helps... it became more of a "'how to sound like' thread 
instread of a sample library thread" :-),
Joeri

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