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Re: [exs] Passing around that Akai Thang

2002-02-11 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

This troubles me as well, Garth. We've known each other over the phone for
some time. I was one of the earliest purchasers of you software, even though
I am Mac-based. I'm amazed to find that you think it improper for me to
exercise the use of my software at my studio for work with a client's
samples. For the most part, I agree with the majority on the ethics of
sample usage. I realize that a lot goes into the effort of building
libraries and the software that reads or translates them. But if you're
suggesting that it angers you when one of your legitimate users is
translating a friend's or client's samples, I feel strongly that you are
encroaching uncomfortably near or even upon the boundaries of fair use.
Ultimately, you could say that I have to own a pink elephant before using
your software, and if that's what your license says, I'd have to adhere to
the rules of your software. I am simply stating as a consumer, I'm not
comfortable with that viewpoint. If CDXtract offered the same function and
didn't have a problem with me translating client samples, I'd begin using
the other software package. Of course this string could open up a whole
other can of worms when you start asking me, are these samples now on my
hard drive? Good question. Truth is, all of this is theoretical and I have
only used your software for my own conversions--namely for the port of my
ASR-10 samples to EXS24. However, I have often been aware of opportunities I
would have to translate samples for others as a service. Yours would be the
first software, that I am aware of, that I can't use for client use, whether
that's Logic, Photoshop or anything else. I'll say it again, I have a
serious problem with that restriction. I don't want to mar my relationship
with you, nor detract for the respect I have for the quality of your
product. Still, this is a major detraction for me.

For the author of CDXtract, what's your viewpoint on this?

Jer

> From: Pev <no_such_user@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:11:12 +0000 (GMT)
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [exs] Passing around that Akai Thang
> 
> --- "Rubber Chicken Software Co." <support@...> wrote:
>> We get people calling that say something like this: "I got a
>> couple CD's from my friend and I'm translating them..." or " went
>> over to my friends house and I converted my CD's and..."
>> 
>> The first instance is infringement on the sounds copyright; the second
>> is  an infringement on the convertors copyright. Both are no-no's. In
>> both  instances I insist that they comply with the rules before I help
>> them any further.
> Sorry, legalese isnt my thing ; looking at the second case here, can I infer
> from this that its in your licence that only the purchaser can use the
> software - that someone using a friends install at their house to convert is
> an infringement? If so, if a commercial studio has a copy of translator, does
> that means that visiting clients are not able to use it? Just curious as its
> a licensing system I have never met before.
> 
> BTW, any news on your mac port yet? I'm still waiting! ;-)
> 
> ~Pev
> 
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