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Re: [exs] Volume Pedal to EXS

2002-04-10 by Darcy Phillips

>
>Today I did a session with a player who needed to do a lot of volume
>swelling

Once again, I need to step up on to my soap box on this:

Expressive control of amplitude was built in to the original midi spec, and 
assigned it's own controller number, namely cc#11. It's called, 
appropriately enough, expression. All general midi synths respond to this, 
as well as pro synths, e.g. Kurzweil. The concept is simple, enable changes 
in amplitude that do not affect the mix level of the instrument, it's midi 
volume, cc#7.

Using controller #7 for expressive control of volume is a clumsy 
workaround, but unfortunately it is the only way to do it with the exs24, 
because cc#11 is not implemented(actually they are using it for some other 
parameter).This makes it unuseable in the long run for anyone wanting to do 
a lot of orchestral emulation.

Guess I'll finish the rant: Even though I have several hundred dollars 
invested in exs24, it mostly sits, because I will not even bother to begin 
converting my library when I know I'll have to deal with this serious 
limitation. When I am doing orchestral work my left hand is on the pitch 
wheel or the mod wheel(mapped to amplitude)_the whole time_. Very 
disappointing. I never dreamed it would be missing such a simple element. 
And I wouldn't mind if they had provided a parameter anywhere that allowed 
for expressive real time control of amplitude, but they haven't from what I 
can see.

For now I'm pinning all my hopes on an update, and trying to keep myself 
from moving on to another platform...

Thanks for reading this far. Emagic: It's a tremendous oversight!

Darcy





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