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Re: [exs] checking out demo, question about envelopes..

2003-03-07 by resomania

Nick,
guess it depends on where you're coming from. The EXS24 might be fine 
for patches with a few string samples that all have similar 
envelopes, or drum loops, but if you're CREATING drum patches 
yourself, most drum sounds require different envelopes (to optimize 
polyphony and minimize hiss as the sample decays), and making +/- 
adjustments to a master envelope seems very unintuitive to me. Plus, 
you can't even view/edit the envelope graphically, as far as I can 
tell. I'm going to play with it some more and see if it grows on me, 
but my first impression is that its missing a few basic features that 
traditional samplers/synths usually have.

Paul 


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Mulder <metatron@x> wrote:
> Hi Paul, I own a full-blown Kurzweil K2500RS but use the EXS24 most 
of 
> the time, mainly because of its very tight timing.
> 
> Which is -as we bozo's all know ofcourse=)- the carrier of the 
musical 
> emotion.
> 
> Also the huge amount of memory inside my (brand new) Mac, the new 
EQ & 
> freezefunction of Logic 6, the great Altiverb and EXS' 
discstreaming 
> function makes it easy for me to choose for this native sampler. It 
> makes me work fast & good.
> 
> And I think that's the bottomline. If an AKAI makes you work fast 
and 
> maybe even better then me, then use the AKAI.
> 
> 
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 20:28 Europe/Amsterdam, resomania wrote:
> 
> > That's a shame, I think the EXS24 has some real pontential, if 
Emagic
> > put some more work into it. Its a good thing I didn't listen to 
the
> > bozos here who were telling me that the EXS24 could easily 
replace my
> > Akai sampler, but then again, they've probably never worked with a
> > real sampler..
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Jer Olsen <HELP@M...> wrote:
> > > You are correct, and yes... it is rather limiting.
> > >
> > > > I'm playing with the EXS24 demo in Logic 5.3, and from what I 
can
> > > > tell, it seems that you set amplitude envelopes at the patch
> > level,
> > > > and if you want a sample/sound in that patch to have a 
different
> > > > envelope, you make adjustments envelope +/- adjustments in the
> > group
> > > > section for that sound.  Is this the case?  If so, I think 
this
> > is a
> > > > very convoluted way of handling sample or tone envelope
> > parameters.
> > > > I prefer having the flexibility to set unique envelopes for
> > > > samples/sounds in patches.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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