EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Paul, if I need that feature -to envelope a sample- I simply make a 
program per sample..=)

I do have some seperate kick/tom/stuff programs. Works great. In a 
studioenvironment you also route each part of a drumkit to seperate 
channels.. Ok, I would like to have it in one complete program so I 
could map it out on my keyboard and start jamming, but hey, they end up 
on different channels anyway (EQ/comp/stuff) so no problem to me.

And I haven't checked the new denoiser of Logic yet, (just went from 
4.8.1 to 6.0) but it wouldn't suprise me if it worked rather ok.

Most of the drumsamples I use/make are 'oneshots', I sample them with 
the original roomreverb, so I don't need envelopetweaking. Said that, 
since I use Altiverb a lot nowadays, I'm curious about going back to 
superdry drumsamples (Hmm, pre-room EQ/compression!=).

My Kurz does 48 voices poly, the EXS on my 867 MP.. Well, pretty ok. 
Also thanks to the freezetracks. And the discstreaming ofcourse.

And ok, you can't see the envelopes. But I guess you can hear them.=)

My point is: Just look at Logic as the complete sampler, not only at 
the EXS24.

And really, in the end you'll love the timing.

But again, if the AKAI makes you work without thinking, and the EXS 
asks too much of an effort from you, stick with the AKAI. Musical 
expression needs a no-brainer tool.


Nick



On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 21:28 Europe/Amsterdam, resomania wrote:

> Nick,
> guess it depends on where you're coming from. The EXS24 might be fine
> for patches with a few string samples that all have similar
> envelopes, or drum loops, but if you're CREATING drum patches
> yourself, most drum sounds require different envelopes (to optimize
> polyphony and minimize hiss as the sample decays), and making +/-
> adjustments to a master envelope seems very unintuitive to me. Plus,
> you can't even view/edit the envelope graphically, as far as I can
> tell. I'm going to play with it some more and see if it grows on me,
> but my first impression is that its missing a few basic features that
> traditional samplers/synths usually have.
>
> Paul
>
>
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Mulder <metatron@x> wrote:
> > Hi Paul, I own a full-blown Kurzweil K2500RS but use the EXS24 most
> of
> > the time, mainly because of its very tight timing.
> >
> > Which is -as we bozo's all know ofcourse=)- the carrier of the
> musical
> > emotion.
> >
> > Also the huge amount of memory inside my (brand new) Mac, the new
> EQ &
> > freezefunction of Logic 6, the great Altiverb and EXS'
> discstreaming
> > function makes it easy for me to choose for this native sampler. It
> > makes me work fast & good.
> >
> > And I think that's the bottomline. If an AKAI makes you work fast
> and
> > maybe even better then me, then use the AKAI.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 20:28 Europe/Amsterdam, resomania wrote:
> >
> > > That's a shame, I think the EXS24 has some real pontential, if
> Emagic
> > > put some more work into it. Its a good thing I didn't listen to
> the
> > > bozos here who were telling me that the EXS24 could easily
> replace my
> > > Akai sampler, but then again, they've probably never worked with a
> > > real sampler..
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Jer Olsen <HELP@M...> wrote:
> > > > You are correct, and yes... it is rather limiting.
> > > >
> > > > > I'm playing with the EXS24 demo in Logic 5.3, and from what I
> can
> > > > > tell, it seems that you set amplitude envelopes at the patch
> > > level,
> > > > > and if you want a sample/sound in that patch to have a
> different
> > > > > envelope, you make adjustments envelope +/- adjustments in the
> > > group
> > > > > section for that sound.  Is this the case?  If so, I think
> this
> > > is a
> > > > > very convoluted way of handling sample or tone envelope
> > > parameters.
> > > > > I prefer having the flexibility to set unique envelopes for
> > > > > samples/sounds in patches.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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