EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

On Sunday, Mar 9, 2003, at 11:17 Europe/Amsterdam, Hendrik Jan Veenstra 
wrote:

> On a fine day, 08-03-2003, Jer Olsen wrote:
>
> >I just realized that I shot a grenade at Hendrik. Hendrik, your 
> statement
> >was really out of character. I think I was a bit harsh, but it 
> surprises me
> >that you would post a statement like this.
>
> OK, maybe I was a bit fast and harsh, for which I then obviously
> should apologize to the list in general and Nick in particular.  Let
> me explain a bit, since usually (as most of you hopefully know) I'm
> not the most unreasonable person on the planet...
>
> What I read was: timing is THE carrier of musical emotion.
>
> My association with a statement like this: house, dance or any top-40
> tune, tight to the microsecond, but most often with a complete lack
> of emotion.  And a documentary I saw some time ago where an old
> Afro-American sat in front of his house, playing Bach on a bluesharp,
> sending shivers down my spine.  This Afro-American surely couldn't be
> othered with sample-accuracy.

He would if you started recording him in a sequencer.

Escpecially those 'afro-americans' have this thing about timing.

And again, your association was wrong. Timing IS the carrier, wether 
you like it or not.

You think it all has to do with sloppy coincidence (which is indeed the 
case with louzy amateur musicians), but timing is spontanious, 
emotional, it is considered the 'character' of the musician in the 
music, it carries the 'statement'. Ask any afro-american jazzplayer, 
they'll agree.

Musicians don't like attacks on their character.


NM (cable on dude)


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