EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi guys,
I'm a complete newbie to the EXS24 (got it around a month ago), my 
free factory disk has just arrived and I've tried installing in order 
to load all the relevant samples and I keep getting an error message 
that it cannot detect a copy of Logic on the machine. I have Logic 
5.5.0 on a G4 (dual proc) mac which works without any issues. Has 
anyone had this before or can anyone assist?

rgds

Tee

On a fine day, 30-12-2003, Tee wrote:

>I'm a complete newbie to the EXS24 (got it around a month ago), my
>free factory disk has just arrived and I've tried installing in order
>to load all the relevant samples and I keep getting an error message
>that it cannot detect a copy of Logic on the machine. I have Logic
>5.5.0 on a G4 (dual proc) mac which works without any issues. Has
>anyone had this before or can anyone assist?

That's a known problem with the factory installer.  It's looking for 
an application called "Logic Audio Platinum" (old name) instead of 
Logic Platinum (new name).  So if you temporarily rename the Logic 
application by adding 'Audio' to it, the installer should find it.

If that doesn't work: you can "install" the samples by simply copying 
them off the CD to your hard disk.  Then all you miss are the 
instrument files (.exs) which I could send to you if you want.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hi everyone,
Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6?  Any issues?  I'm about to 
upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some 
problems...has Emagic worked it out?  Thanks in advance.

julie

> Hi everyone,
> Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6?  Any issues?  I'm about to
> upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some
> problems...has Emagic worked it out?  Thanks in advance.
>
> julie


Hi Julie,

No problems here, although 6.3.2 might not be as CPU efficient as 6.3.1. 
Of course, I was running flawlessly under 6.2.6 also.

    -smeet

On 12/31/03 10:53 AM, "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6?  Any issues?  I'm about to
> upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some
> problems...has Emagic worked it out?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> julie
> 
> 

It's working fine on my Mac. Seems to have no trouble with pretty much any
plug in that I have installed (I just got every Waves plug in there is...)

I'm also having no trouble with ReWire applications.

Panther seems to be actually much better than Jaguar.

What computer do you want to run this on?

Eddie Sullivan
Integrated Midi Systems
The Stony Brook Technology Center
21 Technology Drive
E. Setauket NY 11733
180 344 6434 X 108

Thanks Eddie,
I'm on a tiBook with a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram.  I haven't had 
many CPU issues with this setup...at least nothing that freezing tracks 
here and there wouldn't cure.  I don't use that many audio tracks...but 
I use a ton of EXS instances...often as many as are possible...for 
orchestral arrangements and the like.  Smeet thought it was a little 
more CPU hungry...anything like that for you?

thanks so much...

julie


On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 10:18  AM, Eddie Sullivan wrote:

> On 12/31/03 10:53 AM, "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> > Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6?� Any issues?� I'm about to
> > upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some
> > problems...has Emagic worked it out?� Thanks in advance.
> >
> > julie
> >
> >
>
> It's working fine on my Mac. Seems to have no trouble with pretty much 
> any
> plug in that I have installed (I just got every Waves plug in there 
> is...)
>
> I'm also having no trouble with ReWire applications.
>
> Panther seems to be actually much better than Jaguar.
>
> What computer do you want to run this on?
>
> Eddie Sullivan
> Integrated Midi Systems
> The Stony Brook Technology Center
> 21 Technology Drive
> E. Setauket NY 11733
> 180 344 6434 X 108
>
>
>
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Hi Julie and Eddie,

Just to be clear, I meant that 6.3.2 is more CPU hungry than 6.3.1 or 
6.3, but overall, panther is actually less CPU hungry than jaguar was.

Have a happy new year...

    -smeet

>Thanks Eddie,
>I'm on a tiBook with a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram.  I haven't had 
>many CPU issues with this setup...at least nothing that freezing tracks 
>here and there wouldn't cure.  I don't use that many audio tracks...but 
>I use a ton of EXS instances...often as many as are possible...for 
>orchestral arrangements and the like.  Smeet thought it was a little 
>more CPU hungry...anything like that for you?
>
>thanks so much...
>
>julie
>  
>

Thanks a bunch...I'm going to dive in.

julie



On Dec 31, 2003, at 8:49 PM, Sumit Das wrote:

> Hi Julie and Eddie,
>
> Just to be clear, I meant that 6.3.2 is more CPU hungry than 6.3.1 or
> 6.3, but overall, panther is actually less CPU hungry than jaguar was.
>
> Have a happy new year...
>
> ��� -smeet
>
>
> >Thanks Eddie,
> >I'm on a tiBook with a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram.� I haven't had
> >many CPU issues with this setup...at least nothing that freezing 
> tracks
> >here and there wouldn't cure.� I don't use that many audio 
> tracks...but
> >I use a ton of EXS instances...often as many as are possible...for
> >orchestral arrangements and the like.� Smeet thought it was a little
> >more CPU hungry...anything like that for you?
> >
> >thanks so much...
> >
> >julie
> >�
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>Hi everyone,
>Is anyone using Panther with Logic 6?  Any issues?  I'm about to
>upgrade and had a vague recollection that someone was having some
>problems...has Emagic worked it out?  Thanks in advance.
>
>julie

Hi and Happy New Year!

I'm not fully up to speed with this but....
Folks on the VSL forum have been talking about Panther and a 
so-called "Swap-file" which is used by the system. Apparently folks 
like us who use audio and EXS24 with lots of samples need to keep 
this swap-file on a separate drive - maybe someone else could jump in 
here with more detail.

Regards - Colin

PS - maybe Apple.com has info on this

On Thursday, January 1, 2004, at 10:37 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
> I'm not fully up to speed with this but....
> Folks on the VSL forum have been talking about Panther and a
> so-called "Swap-file" which is used by the system. Apparently folks
> like us who use audio and EXS24 with lots of samples need to keep
> this swap-file on a separate drive - maybe someone else could jump in
> here with more detail.
>

Memory management, VM, swapfiles and 'pageouts' are something you 
should learn all you can about, as lack of attention to memory 
management is probably the biggest single factor in systems not 
performing up-to-par.
  Especially if you are on an older machine!

There is avery good article which explains VM, in broad terms, here : 
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q4/macosx-10.1/macosx-10.1-6.html 
[even though slightly outdated].

Fundamentally, you need about 4 or 5 gigs of free drive space on your 
startup drive to allow for VM under Panther. a little less under Jaguar.
  If you don't have this, you should move your swapfile to another 
drive, as you run the risk of it eating up your prefs [take it from me 
, rebuilding Mail prefs is no fun :( ]
That figure does not take EXS's VSM into account. [I can understand why 
this issue showed up with VSL users first :) ]
  VSM combined with VM is probably going to generate a lot of disk I/O 
activity, even if you do have plenty of RAM and plenty of free space, 
so i can understand why VSM users are recommending moving the swapfile. 
[preferably to a drive dedicated to that alone, if you are serious user]
  Read more here: 
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020410233454624

Most importantly, remember that if you use more than one memory-hungry 
app at a time [especially two or more Audio apps] the swapfile will 
grow very quickly, resulting in excessive pageouts and a serious 
decline in performance. The only cure for this situation is to restart 
the computer to clear the swapfile. [if it happens a lot, you need more 
RAM]

In jaguar, you can run a utility called memorystick which will keep you 
abreast of the VM situation. In panther you can choose to have Activity 
monitor display a pie-chart of memory usage  in the dock.
  By monitoring VM, you can choose to restart the computer at your 
convenience, rather than having everything fall in a heap first.

Dave Eager

Thought I'd chime in here with a question.  AFAICT, digi is only
officially supporting Panther for the G5s.  Is that right, or are you
guys working with it on G4s with no trouble?

best, Nathan
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Oops, sorry.  Thought I was on the TDM list...  Off to cross-post now :)

best, Nathan
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Music Production                    www.doghouseNYC.com 
The Doghouse NYC                    www.pianoVOX.com

On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 03:04 AM, The Doghouse NYC wrote:

> Thought I'd chime in here with a question.  AFAICT, digi is only
> officially supporting Panther for the G5s.  Is that right, or are you
> guys working with it on G4s with no trouble?

Not true, but their less-than-crystal statements could be construed 
that way, I guess. :)

Dave Eager
[Mix system running on 10.3.2 on a G4/400, fairly happily, with Logic 
TDM]

I'll be trying that tonite.
I'll let you know the outcome.
thnks Hendrik 

tee



--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote:
> On a fine day, 30-12-2003, Tee wrote:
> 
> >I'm a complete newbie to the EXS24 (got it around a month ago), my
> >free factory disk has just arrived and I've tried installing in 
order
> >to load all the relevant samples and I keep getting an error 
message
> >that it cannot detect a copy of Logic on the machine. I have Logic
> >5.5.0 on a G4 (dual proc) mac which works without any issues. Has
> >anyone had this before or can anyone assist?
> 
> That's a known problem with the factory installer.  It's looking 
for 
> an application called "Logic Audio Platinum" (old name) instead of 
> Logic Platinum (new name).  So if you temporarily rename the Logic 
> application by adding 'Audio' to it, the installer should find it.
> 
> If that doesn't work: you can "install" the samples by simply 
copying 

> them off the CD to your hard disk.  Then all you miss are the 
> instrument files (.exs) which I could send to you if you want.
> 
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Problem now solved!

Thanks Hendrik 

Rgds
Tee


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Tee" <oluwatope@y...> wrote:
> I'll be trying that tonite.
> I'll let you know the outcome.
> thnks Hendrik 
> 
> tee
> 
> 
> 
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> 
wrote:
> > On a fine day, 30-12-2003, Tee wrote:
> > 
> > >I'm a complete newbie to the EXS24 (got it around a month ago), 
my
> > >free factory disk has just arrived and I've tried installing in 
> order
> > >to load all the relevant samples and I keep getting an error 
> message
> > >that it cannot detect a copy of Logic on the machine. I have 
Logic
> > >5.5.0 on a G4 (dual proc) mac which works without any issues. Has
> > >anyone had this before or can anyone assist?
> > 
> > That's a known problem with the factory installer.  It's looking 
> for 
> > an application called "Logic Audio Platinum" (old name) instead 
of 
> > Logic Platinum (new name).  So if you temporarily rename the 
Logic 

> > application by adding 'Audio' to it, the installer should find it.
> > 
> > If that doesn't work: you can "install" the samples by simply 
> copying 
> > them off the CD to your hard disk.  Then all you miss are the 
> > instrument files (.exs) which I could send to you if you want.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> > Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/