EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

From: James Ryan <jeryan@...>

>Has anybody tried or bought the Post Musical Instruments Grandioso
>Bosendorfer 290 Virtual Instrument (uses a Kontakt type interface)?  If so,
>do you like it?  Is it a resourse or memory hog?  Does it sit well in an
>orchestral piece, rock piece, etc?  Any problems.

I have the Giga version, and there isn't a better sampled piano 
available. That's not saying it's the only one you need - as Sean 
McCoy posted, it's a concert piano and not a close-miked rock one - 
but it's pretty amazing. Yes, it sits perfectly in an orchestral 
piece - that's what it's good at, since it has nice hall ambience.

You'll probably be okay with the Bosendorfer if you run it from RAM 
instead of streaming. But yes, Kompakt uses a lot of resources, 
although they keep coming out with new versions that attempt to 
improve the performance and another one is due any day. DFD 
(streaming) is not really a 100% happening thing with Kompakt in OS 
9, and the current Logic version has problems with some NI stuff in 
OS X (without pointing the blame in any direction, but that's the 
bottom line).

Kompakt is not as efficient as EXS at streaming, at least not at this point.

But I really recommend that piano. I'm happier running it in Giga, 
though, even though it's 16 bits.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Thanks Nick,
I've noticed a number of posts pointing out the problems of running Kompakt
in Logic in OSX.  There is a native EXS version so that's probably the way
to go if you don't run Giga and a PC, which is my situation.

It does look like the White Grand is being considered for EXS though, and
that piano is ridiculous.  Might be worth waiting for in my case.  Check it
out http://www.sampletekk.com/wgresource.php

James

> From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 08:31:24 -0800
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: jeryan@...
> Subject: [EXS] Re: Post Grandioso Bosendorfer 290 Virtual Instrument
> 
> From: James Ryan <jeryan@...>
> 
>> Has anybody tried or bought the Post Musical Instruments Grandioso
>> Bosendorfer 290 Virtual Instrument (uses a Kontakt type interface)?  If so,
>> do you like it?  Is it a resourse or memory hog?  Does it sit well in an
>> orchestral piece, rock piece, etc?  Any problems.
> 
> I have the Giga version, and there isn't a better sampled piano
> available. That's not saying it's the only one you need - as Sean
> McCoy posted, it's a concert piano and not a close-miked rock one -
> but it's pretty amazing. Yes, it sits perfectly in an orchestral
> piece - that's what it's good at, since it has nice hall ambience.
> 
> You'll probably be okay with the Bosendorfer if you run it from RAM
> instead of streaming. But yes, Kompakt uses a lot of resources,
> although they keep coming out with new versions that attempt to
> improve the performance and another one is due any day. DFD
> (streaming) is not really a 100% happening thing with Kompakt in OS
> 9, and the current Logic version has problems with some NI stuff in
> OS X (without pointing the blame in any direction, but that's the
> bottom line).
> 
> Kompakt is not as efficient as EXS at streaming, at least not at this point.
> 
> But I really recommend that piano. I'm happier running it in Giga,
> though, even though it's 16 bits.
> -- 
> 
> Nick Batzdorf
> 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

From: James Ryan <jeryan@...>

>I've noticed a number of posts pointing out the problems of running Kompakt
>in Logic in OSX.  There is a native EXS version so that's probably the way
>to go if you don't run Giga and a PC, which is my situation.

Yes, EXS streams very efficiently.

>It does look like the White Grand is being considered for EXS though, and
>that piano is ridiculous.  Might be worth waiting for in my case.  Check it
>out http://www.sampletekk.com/wgresource.php

That's another good sounding piano, but it's a pop piano rather than 
a concert one. To me the demos have that brittle midrange that 
plagues most sampled pianos, but you can't really tell without 
playing it.

These pianos are all different, though. I wouldn't use the Bos for a 
Billy Joel track!
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434