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2001-04-28 by igor
Hi all, If u do a LOOP with the EXS at the right TEMPO... OK But if after, i want to try the same WAV on the ARRANGE WINDOW it's not the same.... and u know why..... Because EMAGIC used the AIFF audio system conversion on WAVs...U can lose few "samples"... Igor
2001-04-28 by HELP@MusicProTools.com
Interesting discovery. Kind of disappointing too. -Jer
> If u do a LOOP with the EXS at the right TEMPO... OK > But if after, i want to try the same WAV on the ARRANGE WINDOW it's not the > same.... > and u know why..... > Because EMAGIC used the AIFF audio system conversion on WAVs...U can lose > few "samples"... > > Igor
2001-04-29 by Rubber Chicken Software Co.
At 10:28 PM 4/28/01 +0200, you wrote: >If u do a LOOP with the EXS at the right TEMPO... OK >But if after, i want to try the same WAV on the ARRANGE WINDOW it's not the >same.... >and u know why..... >Because EMAGIC used the AIFF audio system conversion on WAVs...U can lose >few "samples"... Why? Only a buggy program could lose samples between AIFF and RIFF. Is the system conversion buggy? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | Garth Hjelte | | Customer Service Representative, President | | Chicken Systems, Inc, Rubber Chicken Software Co. | | 714 5th Street SE | | Willmar, MN 56201 USA | | | | 800-8-PRO-EPS Toll Free Order Line (US Only) | | 320-235-9798 Tech Support, Sampler Questions | | International Line | | 360-838-7689 Fax | | Product Sales: sales@... | | Product Support: support@... | | Sampler Q+A: qa@... | | Web Page: www.chickensys.com | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
2001-04-29 by igor
>If u do a LOOP with the EXS at the right TEMPO... OK >But if after, i want to try the same WAV on the ARRANGE WINDOW it's not the >same.... >and u know why..... >Because EMAGIC used the AIFF audio system conversion on WAVs...U can lose >few "samples"... Why? Only a buggy program could lose samples between AIFF and RIFF. Is the system conversion buggy? ******** Not at all... It's not a Conversion or a lost samples problem. It's a simple fact : The WAV include ( play) the last sample point ( in a LOOP MODE) and not the AIFF, the AIFF don't play the Last Point... example : If you have Loop who start at sample "0" and END "100" , the WAV play The Point "100" and go back from the point 0, the AIFF play till the Point "99" and go back from the Top. The EXS converts all the samples as AIFF. It's the same problem with SF2 format, the last point is not played. Igor
2001-04-30 by Rubber Chicken Software Co.
At 09:19 PM 4/29/01 +0200, you wrote: > >If u do a LOOP with the EXS at the right TEMPO... OK > >But if after, i want to try the same WAV on the ARRANGE WINDOW it's not the > >same.... > >and u know why..... > >Because EMAGIC used the AIFF audio system conversion on WAVs...U can lose > >few "samples"... > >Why? Only a buggy program could lose samples between AIFF and RIFF. Is the >system conversion buggy? >******** >Not at all... It's not a Conversion or a lost samples problem. >It's a simple fact : >The WAV include ( play) the last sample point ( in a LOOP MODE) and not the >AIFF, the AIFF don't play the Last Point... >example : >If you have Loop who start at sample "0" and END "100" , the WAV play The >Point "100" and go back from the point 0, the AIFF play till the Point "99" >and go back from the Top. >The EXS converts all the samples as AIFF. >It's the same problem with SF2 format, the last point is not played. Is that a result of the the AIFF and RIFF specifications themselves, or a result of the specifications of the playback softwares? So when you refer to "lost samples", you are not referring to samples that are not transferred, but to loop points that are incorrect? Garth Hjelte Sampler User
2001-04-30 by igor
>The EXS converts all the samples as AIFF. >It's the same problem with SF2 format, the last point is not played. Is that a result of the the AIFF and RIFF specifications themselves, or a result of the specifications of the playback softwares? ********** It's the AIFF specifications....the last point is not played. Igor
2001-04-30 by Rubber Chicken Software Co.
At 05:47 PM 4/30/01 +0200, you wrote: > >The EXS converts all the samples as AIFF. > >It's the same problem with SF2 format, the last point is not played. > >Is that a result of the the AIFF and RIFF specifications themselves, or a >result of the specifications of the playback softwares? >********** >It's the AIFF specifications....the last point is not played. What about the RIFF spec? What does that say about playing the last sample? (Sorry to go round and round on this - there's a method to the madness here...) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | Garth Hjelte | | Customer Service Representative, President | | Chicken Systems, Inc, Rubber Chicken Software Co. | | 714 5th Street SE | | Willmar, MN 56201 USA | | | | 800-8-PRO-EPS Toll Free Order Line (US Only) | | 320-235-9798 Tech Support, Sampler Questions | | International Line | | 360-838-7689 Fax | | Product Sales: sales@... | | Product Support: support@... | | Sampler Q+A: qa@... | | Web Page: www.chickensys.com | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *