EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

what's the best sample format translator for EMU III/IV samples to EXS? what
about roland s-750/760?
thanks for the help.
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From: <nicolas@...>

>  >>CDXTRACT with no doubt.
>
>>Do you have a reason for saying this? Have you compared >its and
>>Translator Pro's conversions?

Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:

>  >Considering that this statement has the potential to be >damaging to
>>Garth, I think it's only fair to back up your public >opinion with
>>facts.

From: jonathan gibson <bassballjg@...>

>    It would indeed be helpful had Nicolas stated his reasons,and 
>made his positive case for CD Xtract,for the benefit of the original 
>poster.But is it really damaging,per say, to one person or company 
>or product  for an opinion to be expressed in praise of another?I 
>saw no comments in the negative made about Translator in the post,so 
>what harm has been done to Garth?
>
>    Furthermore,is it really neccesary for one to have full knowledge 
>and experience of the products in a category to like the one you do 
>know?I have used Logic and I have used Sonar.I have never used 
>Digital performer or Cubase.If I say that I like Logic,in what way 
>does my inexperience of DP defame that program,if I have not said 
>anything about it at all?And how does my lack of hands-on knowlege 
>of Cubase negate my favorable impression of Sonar,if I do not 
>express it as a comparison?Or,to be literal,would one have had to 
>use Translator in order to find CD Xtract's Emu-EXS conversions 
>satisfactory?Do you really mean to say that one may not say "I like 
>Fords" unless one has driven a Toyota,and that to do so defames 
>Toyota?What nonsense.
>
>     Mr. Batzdorf,do you have any reason,or facts to prove your 
>public opinion that Nicolas is actually slamming Garth and Chicken 
>Systems,and whether he has or hasn't used Translator?Or if he 
>has,whether CD Xtract or Translator did a better job for him?Based 
>upon the evidence actually extant from his post,all I see is a CD 
>Xtract fan who is guilty of nothing more than inadequate exposition 
>of his thoughts.

First of all, breathe in from your diaphragm. Breathe out, stomach 
in. Breathe in, stomach out. Relax. Find your neutral zone.

Second, I'm nowhere near old enough to be called "Mr. Batzdorf."

Third, if you say, "This is the best, hands down" when there are only 
two candidates, is the implication not obvious?

It's also kinda rude, since Garth posts here all the time.

So I asked for an explanation. It may well be that Nicolas is 
perfectly right - in which case Garth would probably be the first to 
admit it - but I think he needs to explain himself.

By the way, while I find Garth to be very pleasant, interesting, and 
knowledgeable, it's not like I own stock in his company or anything. 
I probably would  have asked for an explanation if Nicolas had said 
the same thing about Translator Pro - although I've never met the 
CDXtract people, so I wouldn't have had a fact to post about.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

From: <nicolas@...>
>>  ...Mr. Batzdorf,do you have any reason,or facts to >>prove your 
>>public opinion that Nicolas is actually slamming Garth and Chicken 
>>Systems,and whether he has or hasn't used Translator?...Based 
>>upon the evidence actually extant from his post,all I see is a CD 
>>Xtract fan who is guilty of nothing more than inadequate >exposition 
>>of his thoughts.

Nick Batzdorf:
>... if you say, "This is the best, hands down" when >there are only 
>two candidates, is the implication not obvious?
>It's also kinda rude, since Garth posts here all the >time.
>So I asked for an explanation. It may well be that >Nicolas is 
>perfectly right - in which case Garth would probably be >the first to 
>admit it - but I think he needs to explain himself.
>By the way, while I find Garth to be very pleasant, >interesting, and 
>knowledgeable, it's not like I own stock in his company >or anything. 
>I probably would  have asked for an explanation if >Nicolas had said 
>the same thing about Translator Pro - although I've >never met the 
>CDXtract people, so I wouldn't have had a fact to post >about.

       Nick-Some days being better than others,I would beg your pardon for my human weakness and less than positive personal tone towards you.

        I concur strongly that Nicolas should have been more forthcoming(forthcoming at all) about his resoning.His post was somewhat less than useful for those of us sampler users who have to deal with the ongoing issue of sound compatability,including the poor guy who started this thread and hasn't gotten any real answer to his question,except one post about Emu's filters being an issue in translating those sounds.I have used both programs with varying degrees of success,and my advice when this topic comes up has usually been try both and use what works for you,as the whole business is somewhat hit or miss.I will not endorse,denounce or critique either program at this time.

       I do admit that I am  fond of Garth as I know him from his helpful and positive posts.And whenever anyone has had an issue with Translator,he is always there to help.For that reason,I certainly wouldn't want to see him flamed,or his product maligned ad hominem,without any specific complaint.

       Just as you are not a stockholder in Chicken Systems,I don't know Nicolas from Adam,and am not here as his champion.My issue with your post was your assumption that he was being defamitory to Garth,when I thought he had in fact said nothing at all,literally.The post simply contained no information whatever except that he likes CD Xtract,which is his prerogative,but insufficient for the purpose of edifying dialogue.And I am sorry that I came at you too strong  in making that very narrow point.

        I think it best at this point to let Nicolas say what he meant if he wants,Garth to answer any issues raised if he has to,and the rest of list to offer its best advice on the actual topic at hand.