EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

VSL do a reduced Opus 1 set that costs less (£660 ­ or less if you can get
an educational discount!) that I have just bought and am installing at the
moment.  Will let you know how it sounds!

Gareth

On 23/8/04 1:12 pm, "exs-users@yahoogroups.com" <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> Message: 3       
>  Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:51:59 -0000
>  From: "iollila" <iollila@...>
> Subject: Re: Orchestral samples
> 
> Thaks a lot for your help, everyone. I checked out the VSL on their
> site and could not believe my ears. It´s terribly expensive, but I
> can see (or hear) why. I guess I better start saving money for that.
> Thanks again.

-- 




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LastLibs Acoustic Bass Library - Playable Demo

Saw this on kvr-vst.
Might be pretty decent for a feebie. 48MB
http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=671903#671903

I asked if they had an EXS Version, and the guy replied that if I could get 9
more EXS users to ask for it he'll do it.
It's up with a Kontakt version. Maybe somebody here could translate it.
Chicken Systems, CDXtract guys?   :-)





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and sound comes out the other end and 
disrupts the cosmos."
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I made an exact (at least more or less) replica of this instrument for the
EXS.
You can get it here:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/Lastufka_ABG_Demo.zip
(Of course you need the samples from the site mentioned in the K-v-R thread)
Thing is, the original is missing a lot of notes (so chromatic playing is no
option), plus, I also found some samples to have too much silence in the
beginning.

I allready modified the set for myself, closing the gaps in the mapping,
trimming some sample start points and even adding loop points to any
sustained notes (barely noticeable, but at least you can sustain any
modified patch ad nauseum, just in case you'd like to do a bass-ish pad or
whatever...).
Won't post this modified patch right now though, I'll ask the author for
permission first.

In case you only use this patch in a range of, say, 2 octaves it defenitely
has some use IMO.

Regards,
Sascha

Great, Thanks Sascha!

--- Sascha Franck <S.Franck@...> wrote:

> I made an exact (at least more or less) replica of this instrument for the
> EXS.
> You can get it here:
> http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/Lastufka_ABG_Demo.zip
> (Of course you need the samples from the site mentioned in the K-v-R thread)
> Thing is, the original is missing a lot of notes (so chromatic playing is no
> option), plus, I also found some samples to have too much silence in the
> beginning.
> 
> I allready modified the set for myself, closing the gaps in the mapping,
> trimming some sample start points and even adding loop points to any
> sustained notes (barely noticeable, but at least you can sustain any
> modified patch ad nauseum, just in case you'd like to do a bass-ish pad or
> whatever...).
> Won't post this modified patch right now though, I'll ask the author for
> permission first.
> 
> In case you only use this patch in a range of, say, 2 octaves it defenitely
> has some use IMO.
> 
> Regards,
> Sascha



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and sound comes out the other end and 
disrupts the cosmos."
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Check out Pat's music 
http://www.pbone.org/


		
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Something has been terribly wrong with my Kontakt replica.
First I thought I had forgotten to save before closing Logic, but that
doesn't explain most things (also, I doubt this was the case).

However, when I reloaded the instrument, all of a sudden the "middle" group
zones weren't grouped any longer (which *could* be due to not having saved
the instrument) - but, WAY more weird, they were triggered on note release
(and they DEFENITELY weren't routed to the release group).

Also, I noticed some extreme phasing when loading the patch again (which
defenitely wasn't there when I constructed it), just as if the sample start
points of one sample have been moved big time You see me totally clueless!
I wondered about the patch anyways - in the original there's allways two
samples played for each note. It's not as if they were velocity mapped, no,
they're just doubled in all their range - ey don't sound like being played
at different velocities anyways, so I really don't understand this (nd no,
they're not split stereo files either, at least in the original Kontakt
patch they are all dead centered).

Hm, some things to sort out. But anyways, Alan (the author) said it was OK
to do a modified patch, covering all key zones.
Will post soon, for now you better forget about what I have been posting
allready, there seem to be some weird issues when using release groups
(maybe they are PC issues, but I doubt that).

- Sascha

Will you post it with or without the samples ? Did the author give you
permission to post samples as well ?


Louis



> 
> Hm, some things to sort out. But anyways, Alan (the author) said it was OK
> to do a modified patch, covering all key zones.
> Will post soon, for now you better forget about what I have been posting
> allready, there seem to be some weird issues when using release groups
> (maybe they are PC issues, but I doubt that).
> 
> - Sascha
> 
> 
> 




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Gramophone wrote:
> Will you post it with or without the samples ? Did the author give you
> permission to post samples as well ?

Without samples. Didn't even ask for permission because my webspace is
limited.

- Sascha

I could maybe put it on my ftp site for a short while, it s less the 50 meg,
right ?

Louis
> 
> Without samples. Didn't even ask for permission because my webspace is
> limited.
> 
> - Sascha
> 




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Gramophone wrote:
> I could maybe put it on my ftp site for a short while, it s less the 50 meg,
> right ?
> 
> Louis
> 
>>Without samples. Didn't even ask for permission because my webspace is
>>limited.
>>
>>- Sascha

I've got stacks of spare web space, if it helps ease the load...


OT tip: www.web-mania.com, 500MB for 20 British pounds per year (!), no 
catch.

---I went to the kvr thread and clicked on the link to get the samples and Safari keeps 
crashing. Is there any other way to get the samples?

  Thanks,

  Jay

As far as the instrument patch goes:
- Same link as before.
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/exs/Lastufka_ABG_Demo.zip that is
- This should now indeed be as close as possible to the original Kontakt
patch. The author used some "round robin" feature in Kontakt, which would
mean that "index" and "middle" finger groups would be triggered
alternatively. Had to find out how to do that in the EXS because I never
used it before. Now it works.
- The only modification I did so far was closing the gaps in the mapping, so
you can play it chromatically now from E2 to B3. I didn't alter the start
points yet, to keep the intention of the author. Will perhaps do later.

As far as sample hosting goes:
- I don't think it'd even be fair to ask for permission as this is the demo
patch of a commercial instrument (sampling of it apparently took quite some
effort) and it's nice enough to get permission to alter these patches (well
sure, everybody could do so without asking, but still, it's nice to have an
official "OK").
- You can allways get the samples from this thread:
http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=674329#674329
It's just two clicks away.

Regards,
Sascha

choros15 wrote:
> ---I went to the kvr thread and clicked on the link to get the samples and
Safari keeps
> crashing. Is there any other way to get the samples?

Yes. Use a proper browser.
Did you try "save link as" too?

- Sascha

Sascha you Rock!
Thanks!
Works fine here.
I think this could be pretty useable.


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and sound comes out the other end and 
disrupts the cosmos."
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Sascha,

Thank you again for doing this, I hope the EXS users enjoy the demo 
patch. I am having the full library programmed in EXS as we speak - 
should be available in a week or two. I will keep you guys updated.

Alan Lastufka | www.Lastlibs.com

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote:
> choros15 wrote:
> > ---I went to the kvr thread and clicked on the link to get the samples and
> Safari keeps
> > crashing. Is there any other way to get the samples?
> 
> Yes. Use a proper browser.
> Did you try "save link as" too?
> 
> - Sascha
Thanks Sascha,

  It worked using Right Click "Download Linked File As...".It downloaded as a .rar file. I then 
unzipped it using UnRarX.
   And thanks for the EXS instrument... works fine.
   What does "Use a proper browser" mean? Is there something wrong with Safari that 
would cause this crashing? Is Safari inferior in some ways to another Browser? Which would 
that be? Thanks,

  Jay

choros15 wrote:
>    What does "Use a proper browser" mean? Is there something wrong with
Safari that
> would cause this crashing? Is Safari inferior in some ways to another
Browser? Which would
> that be? Thanks,

Not sure.
But, in any case, clicking on a link shouldn't make any browser crash.
Personally I'm using Firefox on Windows (a Mozilla based browser), which is
free and working great. There's a Mac OSX version as well, maybe you should
try it:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

Best,
Sascha

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote:
> choros15 wrote:
> >    What does "Use a proper browser" mean? Is there something wrong with
> Safari that
> > would cause this crashing? Is Safari inferior in some ways to another
> Browser? Which would
> > that be? Thanks,
> 
> Not sure.
> But, in any case, clicking on a link shouldn't make any browser crash.
> Personally I'm using Firefox on Windows (a Mozilla based browser), which is
> free and working great. There's a Mac OSX version as well, maybe you should
> try it:
> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> 
> Best,
> Sascha

  Thanks,

  Just for kicks I tried the link using Internet Explorer(because it's already on my mac) and 
it started to download just fine. I don't like Internet Explorer though. It just feels slow and 
awkward.(actually never use it). Interesting and disappointing about Safari though. I 
checked out the Mozilla link,I may just give it a try and see how it feels! Thanks for the 
info. Sorry so off topic.

    

    Jay

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "choros15" <jsteveskey@e...> wrote:

> Interesting and disappointing about Safari though...


FWIW, I'm using Safari exclusively and don't have any problems...

michael

Well I can certainly say the Opus 1 is worth the money.  Have just loaded it
and been playing with it.  Will probably need to get the solo strings set
separately and some more brass later but am very pleased so far.  Will need
some RAM for the computer as Logic struggles to keep up with only 1GB on my
G4 (1.25GHz)

Gareth

On 23/8/04 1:12 pm, "exs-users@yahoogroups.com" <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> 
> Thaks a lot for your help, everyone. I checked out the VSL on their
> site and could not believe my ears. It´s terribly expensive, but I
> can see (or hear) why. I guess I better start saving money for that.
> Thanks again.
> 

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G'day group!

A friend just told me that he needs a set of pipe organ bass pedal 
samples. He reckons that playing normal pipe organ sounds an octave or 
two lower doesn't sound right, so he particularly wants the pedal samples.

Any suggestions?

Thanks for the information, Gareth. Will definately keep Opus 1 in 
mind. Is it so that it lacks some brass-instruments? Does it lack 
anything else crucial? If so, do you know if it is possible to build 
up the VLS-library little by little, to buy the CDs one by one. A 
5000 $ investment just like that is simply too much for me right 
now.  
Thanks again.

Iiro