EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

In a message dated 3/22/05 7:11:40 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes:


> 
> do you know the best sounding piano for esx???
> 

I have Ivory.   Keyboard magazine and Future Music both write that its the 
best software based piano for the computer hands down.   The only complaint Ive 
read about it is that there is no stand alone version.   I do have all the 
pianos (the old lady was my latest aqusition) and I have to admit I wished Id not 
purchased it and just stuck with the Ivory.

-T


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I haven't been reading this list for a week, but the two best ones 
I've heard are Post B\ufffdsendorfer and Ivory. All three pianos in Ivory 
are miked fairly closely, so they're good for a "pop" sound, and the 
way they're mapped to the keyboard is outstanding - very playable.

The Bos is recorded from two positions, but both are fairly ambient; 
it's just outstanding for a concert sound, and it blends well with 
sampled orchestra. It's also softer. I bought it after hearing a 
demo, and I don't regret it.

These two really raise the bar above other sampled pianos I've heard; 
for years the one in the Kurzweil K250 piano (which was done by Joe 
Ierardi, the same guy who did Ivory) was my favorite. But I haven't 
heard SampleTek's White or Black Grands, and Art Vista is coming out 
with a new piano soon that sounds great - I got to play with a very 
early demo version a few months ago, and it has a lot of charm.

There is no "best" piano, since they all sound different. Each one 
can sound very wrong or very right, depending on the context.
-- 
Nick Batzdorf - editor
Virtual Instruments magazine
(the world of softsynths and samplers)
www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com
1-877 VImagzn (846-2496), 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:

>  > I haven't been reading this list for a week, but the
>>  two best ones
>>  I've heard are Post B\ufffdsendorfer and Ivory.

From: james page <jimmymio@...>

>Does anyone know how the Post Bosendorfer differs from
>"The Emperor" which is also a Bosendorfer by Post?

I believe there's only one Post piano, or at least Michiel Post said 
that the 290 and Grandioso are the same.

Love your work with Led Zeppelin...
-- 
Nick Batzdorf - editor
Virtual Instruments magazine
(the world of softsynths and samplers)
www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com
1-877 VImagzn (846-2496), 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

> I believe there's only one Post piano, or at least Michiel Post said
> that the 290 and Grandioso are the same.
> 

Huh? Yes, the 290 and Grandioso are the same. But what about Emperor vs.
290/Grandioso? From the demos I've heard, the Emperor sounds a bit
different.

And there are still more Post pianos, most notably the "Old Lady".

Don

Nick Batzdorf wrote:
> Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>> > I haven't been reading this list for a week, but the
>>
>>> two best ones
>>> I've heard are Post B\ufffdsendorfer and Ivory.
> 
> 
> From: james page <jimmymio@...>
> 
>>Does anyone know how the Post Bosendorfer differs from
>>"The Emperor" which is also a Bosendorfer by Post?
> 
> 
> I believe there's only one Post piano, or at least Michiel Post said 
> that the 290 and Grandioso are the same.
> 
> Love your work with Led Zeppelin...

"Grandioso" is the series of pianos that include a Bosendorfer 290, a
Steinway D and a Yamaha C7. Emperor is a different piano and is 
described as a reproduction of a unique Bosendorfer 290 SE Imperial.

I have a comparison mp3 of the two at the bottom of this page:

http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24-samples.html

(excuse the bad piano playing)


-- 
Pete Thomas
www.petethomas.co.uk
- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

On 09/04/2005, at 12:46 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote:
>
>  I believe there's only one Post piano, or at least Michiel Post said
>  that the 290 and Grandioso are the same

No, PMI's Old Lady is samples of the Steinway D.

Andris