EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello, I LOVE my Old Lady(haha) but I have a major prob with her. When I 
play and record into Logic some notes all of a sudden get cut off and stop 
dead...it's driving me crazy!!! anybody know of a simple fix? any and all 
suggestions GREATLY appreciated...I'm trying to finish a project...Best, 
Micke Nilsson

Hi Micke,

I'm afraid I do not know a solution for this, but I can confirm the 
problem. After finishing a project I only installed Old Lady this week.
I have exactly the same problems with randomly cut off sounds.
Could it be lack of memory? Though I have the feeling it should be 
enough. I have 2 Gig on my G4 (2X1G).

Rob
 
> When I play and record into Logic some notes all of a sudden get cut 
off and stop 
> dead...it's driving me crazy!!! > Micke Nilsson

>  I'm afraid I do not know a solution for this, but I can confirm the
>  problem. After finishing a project I only installed Old Lady this 
> week.  I have exactly the same problems with randomly cut off sounds.
>  Could it be lack of memory? Though I have the feeling it should be
>  enough. I have 2 Gig on my G4 (2X1G).
>
>  Rob
>
>  > When I play and record into Logic some notes all of a sudden get cut
>  off and stop
>  > dead...it's driving me crazy!!! > Micke Nilsson

You've probably already tried this.....  In the EXS window make sure 
that the number of voices is set to handle the number you're feeding 
through it.  I think the default setting is 16.  for a piano part 
you'll need a lot more than that.  don't forget that if the pedal is 
down they polyphony just keeps adding up.  You may be experiencing 
something like track stealing.

julie

> >  > When I play and record into Logic some notes all of a sudden
get cut
> >  off and stop
> >  > dead...it's driving me crazy!!! > Micke Nilsson
> 
> You've probably already tried this.....  In the EXS window make
sure 
> that the number of voices is set to handle the number you're
feeding 
> through it.  I think the default setting is 16.  for a piano part 
> you'll need a lot more than that.  don't forget that if the pedal
is 
> down they polyphony just keeps adding up.  You may be experiencing 
> something like track stealing.
> 
> julie

I don't know about Micke's set up, but my EXS is set to 64 voices and
I do 
have the same problems.

Anyone else on this?

Rob

>>
>>>>> When I play and record into Logic some notes all of a sudden
>> get cut off and stop dead...it's driving me crazy!!! > Micke Nilsson
>>>
>>> You've probably already tried this.....  In the EXS window make sure
>>> that the number of voices is set to handle the number you're feeding 
>>> through it.  I think the default setting is 16.  for a piano part
>>> you'll need a lot more than that.  don't forget that if the pedal is 
>>> down they polyphony just keeps adding up.  You may be experiencing
>>> something like track stealing.
>>>
>>> julie
>>
>> I don't know about Micke's set up, but my EXS is set to 64 voices and
>> I do
>> have the same problems.
>>
>> Anyone else on this?
>>
>> Rob
>

Same for me...........

Keith Moore
Lone Arranger Pty. Ltd.


Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

_ \_ \_ ...............
www.lonearranger.com.au

>
>  >> I don't know about Micke's set up, but my EXS is set to 64 voices and
>  >> I do
>  >> have the same problems.
>  >>
>  >> Anyone else on this?
>  >>
>  >> Rob
>  >
>
>  Same for me...........
>
>  Keith Moore
>  Lone Arranger Pty. Ltd.


I don't remember if you gave your setup....could it be a ram issue.

If you need a work around....try bouncing the track.

julie
www.julielarson.net

Me too, very disappointing really as the samples sound really great.
Best Regards
Mike

MDD G4 Dual 1ghz   2gb RAM
Mac OS 10.3.7 and 9.2.2
Powerbook G4 1.5ghz  1.5gb RAM
Logic Pro 6.4.3 & 7.0.1
UAD-1
Motu 828

> Message: 2
>    Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:32:45 +1000
>    From: Keith Moore <kcmoore@...>
> Subject: Re: OT:Old lady note "cut offs"
>
>
>>>
>>>>>> When I play and record into Logic some notes all of a sudden
>>> get cut off and stop dead...it's driving me crazy!!! > Micke Nilsson
>>>>
>>>> You've probably already tried this.....  In the EXS window make sure
>>>> that the number of voices is set to handle the number you're feeding
>>>> through it.  I think the default setting is 16.  for a piano part
>>>> you'll need a lot more than that.  don't forget that if the pedal is
>>>> down they polyphony just keeps adding up.  You may be experiencing
>>>> something like track stealing.
>>>>
>>>> julie
>>>
>>> I don't know about Micke's set up, but my EXS is set to 64 voices and
>>> I do
>>> have the same problems.
>>>
>>> Anyone else on this?
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>
> Same for me...........
>

If you like the sound of the piano....use it....just do an off-line 
bounce when you finish editing your track.  I don't know what other 
instruments you're running at the same time as the piano, but I have  
2gb of ram, I'm running on a powerbook 1.5 GHz and run into this 
problem all the time...   I just work around it.  I suppose if you're 
trying to do it live....you're out of luck...

Hey....have you tried using you're dual G4 as a node? ....running Logic 
from you're powerbook.  This basically adds the processing power of 
you're desktop to that of you're power book.  Logic 7 does this.  Maybe 
it will help.

julie

On 09.05.2005, at 16:27, Julie Larson wrote:

> Hey....have you tried using you're dual G4 as a node? ....running  
> Logic
> from you're powerbook.  This basically adds the processing power of
> you're desktop to that of you're power book.  Logic 7 does this.   
> Maybe
> it will help.

Unfortunately EXS is not supported by nodes.

Btw, the machine is very important for the Old Lady. On a G4  
Powerbook I could hardly play a couple of chords without frightening  
her. Now on the G5 iMac with 2GB RAM I play what I can (isn't too  
much :) and the Lady is amused as long as I do not hold the pedal  
down for a couple of bars.

For some pieces one of the smaller instruments like the pedal down or  
pedal up settings might be a choice for recording. They can be  
replaced by a bigger one later.

___
Peter Ostry

On May 9, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Peter Ostry wrote:


>  Unfortunately EXS is not supported by nodes.
>  Peter Ostry
>

Yikes....it's true....I just read it in the manual.  I was planning on 
using nodes to enable me to run VSL.  I figured that I could off load 
the fat VSL tracks to the node.  How are people doing this?  Maybe I 
shouldn't buy VSL for EXS....Can you run Kontact as a plug-in and node 
enable that?  I'd love some input.....


Thanks,
julie

Julie Larson <julielarson@m...> wrote:

> 
> Yikes....it's true....I just read it in the manual.  I was planning 
on 
> using nodes to enable me to run VSL.  I figured that I could off load 
> the fat VSL tracks to the node.  How are people doing this?  Maybe I 
> shouldn't buy VSL for EXS....Can you run Kontact as a plug-in and 
node 
> enable that?  I'd love some input.....


At present, no 3rd party plug ins can be used node enabled.

kind regards

Mark Cahill

On May 9, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Julie Larson wrote:

>  Yikes....it's true....I just read it in the manual.  I was planning on
>  using nodes to enable me to run VSL.  I figured that I could off load
>  the fat VSL tracks to the node.  How are people doing this? 

Hi Julie,

I think that most power users needing to do this usually set up a 
separate PC with Gigastudio. They run it from there and trigger the 
sounds via midi. And then route the audio back into the Mac for mixing 
via the litepipe connection of their audio interface.


--------
Eli Krantzberg
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
Almat Productions

Quoting markdvc2002 <mark@...>:

>  Julie Larson <julielarson@m...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yikes....it's true....I just read it in the manual.  I was planning
> on
>> using nodes to enable me to run VSL.  I figured that I could off load
>> the fat VSL tracks to the node.  How are people doing this?  Maybe I
>> shouldn't buy VSL for EXS....Can you run Kontact as a plug-in and
> node
>> enable that?  I'd love some input.....
>
>
> At present, no 3rd party plug ins can be used node enabled.
>
> kind regards
>
> Mark Cahill
>
You could buy it as Kontakt and then MIDI to it, using the extra computer as a
sound module.
- Lenny

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I want everybody here to know that Michiel Post has been working with me 
this afternoon to try and solve this problem. He obviously cares about us 
users and is doing his utmost to figure out what the trouble is. Best, Micke

--- Micke Nilsson <mickenilsson@...> wrote:
> I want everybody here to know that Michiel Post has
> been working with me 
> this afternoon to try and solve this problem. He
> obviously cares about us 
> users and is doing his utmost to figure out what the
> trouble is. Best, Micke

That's great! Michiel always comes through sooner or
later. Please fill us in on the results of your
brainstorming.  JP

>> Yikes....it's true....I just read it in the manual.  I was planning on
>> using nodes to enable me to run VSL.  I figured that I could off load
>> the fat VSL tracks to the node.  How are people doing this?  Maybe I
>> shouldn't buy VSL for EXS....Can you run Kontact as a plug-in and node
>> enable that?  I'd love some input.....
>
>
> At present, no 3rd party plug ins can be used node enabled.
>
> kind regards
>
> Mark Cahill
>
>You could buy it as Kontakt and then MIDI to it, using the extra >computer as a
>sound module.
>- Lenny


kinda late in my reply. has anyone had success in using wormhole ??? I just got a new PC and would like to use it's muscle with my powerbook. Wormhole is so cheap that i fear it !!!
If it works, what a bargain

On 22.06.2005, at 09:16, john mason wrote:

> kinda late in my reply. has anyone had success in using  
> wormhole ??? I just got a new PC and would like to use it's muscle  
> with my powerbook. Wormhole is so cheap that i fear it !!!
> If it works, what a bargain

WormHole does curently not work in Logic 7.1 under Tiger. If you run  
earlier versions you can use it. I haven't tried crossplatform. I  
guess you have seen the demo version on the webpage, so you can give  
it a shot.

I used WormHole sucessfully to record on a G3 with a good audiocard  
directly to Logic on a Powerbook over Ethernet. Not very comfortable  
(you have to deal with latency) but it definitely works.

___
Peter Ostry