EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi,

I need help with the following problem:

I created an alias to the sampler instruments folder
and placed it where the sampler instruments folder
normally resides in the main Logic Pro folder. The
alias points to an external firewire drive where I
installed all the purchased exs24 instruments and
associated samples. 

I can load and play any exs24 instrument existing on
the external drive but when I try to load any of the
instruments installed  and supplied with Logic Pro,
nothing happens.

My question: is this caused by the fact that the alias
for the sampler folder points to the external drive
and the Logic supplied instruments reside on the main
drive and not the external drive? If so, can I move
the Logic supplied instruments to the external drive?
What would the procedure be?

As a side note, I have ExsManager and am wondering if
this can all be solved by running the program to
re-link the instruments and files. But that brings up
another question: can ExsManager be run over more than
one drive at a time, specifically the configuration I
mentioned above?

thanks,

Arthur

On May 4, 2005, at 5:36 PM, arthur perkins wrote:

> I need help with the following problem:
>
>  I created an alias to the sampler instruments folder
>  and placed it where the sampler instruments folder
>  normally resides in the main Logic Pro folder.

Since Logic 7, this is no longer the place for the sampler instrument 
folder(s). One needs to be in the global library - application support 
- Logic folder (for the factory instruments). And any non factory 
instruments need to be in a sampler instruments folder in the user - 
library - application support - Logic folder. Alias' should work fine, 
once you have installed them in these proper locations.

> I have ExsManager and am wondering if
>  this can all be solved by running the program to
>  re-link the instruments and files.

I don't think that is your problem. It sounds like it's just a simple 
geography problem.

> But that brings up
>  another question: can ExsManager be run over more than
>  one drive at a time,

Yes. I do it all the time. i have my samples on a different drive than 
my sampler instruments.



--------
Eli Krantzberg
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
Almat Productions

Hi,

I moved the alias as you suggested but still cannot
load any instruments in the factory or garageband
installed folders.

The odd thing is, when I removed the alias the first
time, I could load any of the factory or garageband
instruments.

Arthur 

--- Eli Krantzberg <elik@...> wrote:

> 
> On May 4, 2005, at 5:36 PM, arthur perkins wrote:
> 
> > I need help with the following problem:
> >
> >  I created an alias to the sampler instruments
> folder
> >  and placed it where the sampler instruments
> folder
> >  normally resides in the main Logic Pro folder.
> 
> Since Logic 7, this is no longer the place for the
> sampler instrument 
> folder(s). One needs to be in the global library -
> application support 
> - Logic folder (for the factory instruments). And
> any non factory 
> instruments need to be in a sampler instruments
> folder in the user - 
> library - application support - Logic folder. Alias'
> should work fine, 
> once you have installed them in these proper
> locations.
> 
> > I have ExsManager and am wondering if
> >  this can all be solved by running the program to
> >  re-link the instruments and files.
> 
> I don't think that is your problem. It sounds like
> it's just a simple 
> geography problem.
> 
> > But that brings up
> >  another question: can ExsManager be run over more
> than
> >  one drive at a time,
> 
> Yes. I do it all the time. i have my samples on a
> different drive than 
> my sampler instruments.
> 
> 
> 
> --------
> Eli Krantzberg
> http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
> Almat Productions
> 
>

On May 4, 2005, at 8:50 PM, arthur perkins wrote:

>  I moved the alias as you suggested but still cannot
>  load any instruments in the factory or garageband
>  installed folders.

Hmmm, very strange. What happens exactly when you select the 
instrument? Does the coloured  beachball spin at all, or what?

The other thing is, maybe you've exceeded the sampler instrument limit. 
I remember I had this problem temporarily when I was just getting my 
head around the new L7 install. I had redundant aliases pointing to my 
old Logic Pro 6 folder that duplicated the user sampler instruments. It 
was a mess until I figured it out; but I do remember the bottom 
instruments not being accessible. So check if you are reaching the 
maximum. I forget what the exact amount is...... maybe someone can post 
the magic number?


--------
Eli Krantzberg
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
Almat Productions

Hi,

When I select an instrument from the Factory or
Garageband folders, nothing happens. Yet if I select
an instrument from the external firewire drive, it
loads. I thought if I hit the limit(I think it's
10,000 exs instruments total, I could be wrong), that
no instruments could be loaded regardless of their
location.

The last time I ran EXSManager, it recorded over
13,000 instruments between the factory, garageband,
and the external drive. I hope Apple is working on
blowing away the limit for a future enhancement
because if that is the problem, it needs to be blown
away.

thanks,

Arthur
 

--- Eli Krantzberg <elik@...> wrote:

> 
> On May 4, 2005, at 8:50 PM, arthur perkins wrote:
> 
> >  I moved the alias as you suggested but still
> cannot
> >  load any instruments in the factory or garageband
> >  installed folders.
> 
> Hmmm, very strange. What happens exactly when you
> select the 
> instrument? Does the coloured  beachball spin at
> all, or what?
> 
> The other thing is, maybe you've exceeded the
> sampler instrument limit. 
> I remember I had this problem temporarily when I was
> just getting my 
> head around the new L7 install. I had redundant
> aliases pointing to my 
> old Logic Pro 6 folder that duplicated the user
> sampler instruments. It 
> was a mess until I figured it out; but I do remember
> the bottom 
> instruments not being accessible. So check if you
> are reaching the 
> maximum. I forget what the exact amount is......
> maybe someone can post 
> the magic number?
> 
> 
> --------
> Eli Krantzberg
> http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
> Almat Productions
> 
>

On May 4, 2005, at 11:01 PM, arthur perkins wrote:


>  When I select an instrument from the Factory or
>  Garageband folders, nothing happens. Yet if I select
>  an instrument from the external firewire drive, it
>  loads. I thought if I hit the limit(I think it's
>  10,000 exs instruments total, I could be wrong), that
>  no instruments could be loaded regardless of their
>  location.

No, it's the instruments beyond the magic number that don't load. And 
the Factory and GarageBand ones are the last in the list.

>  The last time I ran EXSManager, it recorded over
>  13,000 instruments between the factory, garageband,
>  and the external drive.

Well, then that's it. That's definitely the problem.


--------
Eli Krantzberg
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
Almat Productions

That figures. Does anyone know if Apple plans to
address this in a future update of the program?
Otherwise, I guess I'll have to swap out the
instruments I don't need when working on a project and
that is going to be a major pain in the ass!

Thanks for the info,

Arthur

--- Eli Krantzberg <elik@...> wrote:

> 
> On May 4, 2005, at 11:01 PM, arthur perkins wrote:
> 
> 
> >  When I select an instrument from the Factory or
> >  Garageband folders, nothing happens. Yet if I
> select
> >  an instrument from the external firewire drive,
> it
> >  loads. I thought if I hit the limit(I think it's
> >  10,000 exs instruments total, I could be wrong),
> that
> >  no instruments could be loaded regardless of
> their
> >  location.
> 
> No, it's the instruments beyond the magic number
> that don't load. And 
> the Factory and GarageBand ones are the last in the
> list.
> 
> >  The last time I ran EXSManager, it recorded over
> >  13,000 instruments between the factory,
> garageband,
> >  and the external drive.
> 
> Well, then that's it. That's definitely the problem.
> 
> 
> --------
> Eli Krantzberg
> http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
> Almat Productions
> 
>