EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hullo Each,

Until recently I've been using a conversion of a freeware soundfont as a solo trumpet on an 
Spaghetti Western-style track I've been developing. It sounds magnificent except on certain 
notes where the end of the loop creates a nasty vibrato which interferes with the vibrato in 
the sample.

I'm not averse to paying for sounds, I have a couple of collections already, but I'd rather not 
get a whole brass section for the one instrument. Any ideas?

The sound I'm after could be described as Bright Jazz Trumpet. Most trumpets I've found 
seem a little flat, often recorded for orchestra rather than with the expression of Jazz (funk 
doesn't work either, too soft).

Any and all ideas gratefully received.

Nigel

> Any and all ideas gratefully received.
Hire a jazz trumpet player ;-)


Best regards,


Steve
http://www.hollowsun.com

nigel_robinsonuk wrote:
> Hullo Each,
> 
> Until recently I've been using a conversion of a freeware soundfont as a solo trumpet on an 
> Spaghetti Western-style track I've been developing. It sounds magnificent except on certain 
> notes where the end of the loop creates a nasty vibrato which interferes with the vibrato in 
> the sample.
> 
> I'm not averse to paying for sounds, I have a couple of collections already, but I'd rather not 
> get a whole brass section for the one instrument. Any ideas?
> 
> The sound I'm after could be described as Bright Jazz Trumpet. Most trumpets I've found 
> seem a little flat, often recorded for orchestra rather than with the expression of Jazz (funk 
> doesn't work either, too soft).
> 
> Any and all ideas gratefully received.


Reloop the samples so that the loop conicides with the natural vib of 
the instrument. Usually I find it easier to loop samples with vibrato as 
the waveform shows you the likely good loop points.


-- 
Pete Thomas
www.petethomas.co.uk
- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

Hollow Sun <steve@...> wrote:
> Any and all ideas gratefully received.
>Hire a jazz trumpet player ;-)


>Best regards,


>Steve
>http://www.hollowsun.com


are you near a college with a good jazz program??? you could hire kids from my school for minimum wage (or a 12 pack). you can find some eager, incredible talent dirt cheap. they may not  be Miles Davis yet, but they are not as arrogant as a lot of the seasoned big name cats. Miles might be a little overkill anyway.

At 1:20 Uhr -0700 22.06.2005, john mason wrote:
>  Miles might be a little overkill anyway.

And last time I checked...

sorry...

couldn't resist

Cheers
Hans

Hullo Each,

Thanks for all the useful, and the not-so-useful, comments on this topic. I was, rather 
lazily, hoping someone could recommend an off-the-shelf solution with enough control 
over articulation to get some feeling into the instrument (it's not that I don't like real 
musicians, just that I want control over the entire production, for it to be 'my sound', that's 
why I started using a sampler).

I'll have a bash at relooping the samples, but would still like to hear of any commercially 
available solo brass stuff. Most seems to be phrases rather than playable instruments - no 
good to me.

In reply to one request about the Trumpet I'm using already, you can get it at:

www.hammersound.net

Thanks everyone,

Nigel

...which is a fantastic site for .sf2's which you can convert without blinking. Quality is 
enough for me, even though file size is small. Just be careful if you want to use these 
commercially, y'nkow check the license etc.

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Pete Thomas <logic@p...> wrote:
> nigel_robinsonuk wrote:
> > Hullo Each,
> > 
> > Until recently I've been using a conversion of a freeware soundfont as a solo trumpet 
on an 
> > Spaghetti Western-style track I've been developing. It sounds magnificent except on 
certain 
> > notes where the end of the loop creates a nasty vibrato which interferes with the 
vibrato in 
> > the sample.
> > 
> > I'm not averse to paying for sounds, I have a couple of collections already, but I'd 
rather not 
> > get a whole brass section for the one instrument. Any ideas?
> > 
> > The sound I'm after could be described as Bright Jazz Trumpet. Most trumpets I've 
found 
> > seem a little flat, often recorded for orchestra rather than with the expression of Jazz 
(funk 

> > doesn't work either, too soft).
> > 
> > Any and all ideas gratefully received.
> 
> 
> Reloop the samples so that the loop conicides with the natural vib of 
> the instrument. Usually I find it easier to loop samples with vibrato as 
> the waveform shows you the likely good loop points.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pete Thomas
> www.petethomas.co.uk
> - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

nigel_robinsonuk wrote:
> Hullo Each,
> 
> Thanks for all the useful, and the not-so-useful, comments on this topic. I was, rather 
> lazily, hoping someone could recommend an off-the-shelf solution with enough control 
> over articulation to get some feeling into the instrument (it's not that I don't like real 
> musicians, just that I want control over the entire production, for it to be 'my sound', that's 
> why I started using a sampler).

I use the Quatum Leap brass for trumpets. Unfortunately the rest of the 
stuff on there isn't great.

I also have some samples of a trumpet with harmon mute in various 
positions - in, out, 1/3 in and 2/3 in. As soon as I get round to it I 
will be putting these on my site for download.

-- 
Pete Thomas
www.petethomas.co.uk
- Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

--- Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...> wrote:

> At 1:20 Uhr -0700 22.06.2005, john mason wrote:
> >  Miles might be a little overkill anyway.
> 
> And last time I checked...
> 
> sorry...
> 
> couldn't resist
> 
> Cheers
> Hans
> 

:-)