EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi all!

I'm a longtime LUG member, but fairly new to this list.
Over a period of time I have registered on this list (and the lug) that
quite a few people wishes conversions of more formats e.g Roland.
I think this list would be ideal to say to Emagic (politely) that we need
some more formats converted please.
Shall we set up a poll and maybe ask Joeri if he wants to be the messenger
of an united exs-list wish?
If we are enough we might get this throug.

After the terrific success of the plug-in deal and Joeri's idea of more
company people on this list, this could maybe be the way to show we are on
topic and can get some wishes fulfilled.
As I'm a Norwegian, please bare over with any almost English phrases.


Anyone?


@nders




Best
Anders Elverhøy


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Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are compiled
and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer

> Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are compiled
> and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer

Yeah, http://www.belway.com/logic/
The problem is: I'm administrator of that site and as you'll see: it hasn't
been updated in ages. I'll get back in touch with some folks I was going to
work something out with to make things happen automatically.

So, as Anders said, if this list can work out a nice list with "priority
items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to
the right people and I'll try to get a reply too.

Bye,
Joeri

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joeri@...

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"HELP@..." wrote:

> Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are
> compiled
> and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer
>
>

http://www.belway.com/logic/

Dave Eager

Yup. That was the one...

From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Organization: Belway Productions
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 17:44:06 +0200
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS-24 conversion


> Does anyone know the URL of the Logic users site where Wishes are compiled
> and sent to Emagic? I've been there before but can't find it. -Jer

Yeah, http://www.belway.com/logic/
The problem is: I'm administrator of that site and as you'll see: it hasn't
been updated in ages. I'll get back in touch with some folks I was going to
work something out with to make things happen automatically.

So, as Anders said, if this list can work out a nice list with "priority
items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to
the right people and I'll try to get a reply too.

Bye,
Joeri

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joeri@...

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List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM



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Joeri wrote:

>......... if this list can work out a nice list with "priority
>items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to
>the right people and I'll try to get a reply too.

Thanks Joeri !! I'll start.

Priority list for EXS24:
1 - Native sample import from Roland format
2 - Multiple outs

Feel free to add to this list folks.

Regards - Colin

Add this:

Inverse velocity for zones so that a soft piano note and a hard piano note
can be crossfaded into each other on the same key through velocity/attack.

Support for the audio trigger points!!!

Something like a bus allocation for Groups and Zones would be nice, so you
could treat samples from the same instrument differently with FX. This would
not be saved with the instrument however. It would be saved with the song's
settings. Nothing would annoy me more than to have such a setting operating
according to my last song by default. It should not be assigned by default
when I open a new instrument. Hope that's clear.

I'm sure I'll think of more, but if Emagic wants to stay ahead of Halion,
they'll hearken to the concerns of their existing users. Rubber Chicken
Software is really good at that. I wish more companies would follow suit
(still waiting for that Mac version of Translator though, guys ;-) -Jer

From: Colin Shapiro <musos@...>
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:20:24 +0200
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS-24 conversion


Joeri wrote:

>......... if this list can work out a nice list with "priority
>items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to
>the right people and I'll try to get a reply too.

Thanks Joeri !! I'll start.

Priority list for EXS24:
1 - Native sample import from Roland format
2 - Multiple outs

Feel free to add to this list folks.

Regards - Colin


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I want Kurzweil support!

Thanks Joeri !! I'll start.

>
> Priority list for EXS24:
> 1 - Native sample import from Roland format
> 2 - Multiple outs
>
> Feel free to add to this list folks.
>
> Regards - Colin
>
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Nice to see you're sending in your wishes. I suggest the following: work out a
top 5 on the list, make a well-structured letter, once it's finished send it to
me and I'll deliver it to the developers. In the meanwhile, I'll check whether
the developers have the time to read, and if possible, reply to it. I'm sorry but
I don't have the time to make the letter etc... the LUG is taking all of my
"spare time" already.

Bye,
Joeri
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Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

An addition to my previous mail: if you can't work out a top 5 (e.g. some
people prefer Emu support over Kurzweil support or over Roland support), then
make a poll (here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/polls)  and let the
poll decide what's more important.

The developers already have more than enough things to do to make sure 5.0 is
released in time, so I don't think any "extra" features will be added, but it
never hurts if they know what our priorities and maybe... if we're very lucky,
they might be able to find the time to add a little extra anyway... but I
wouldn't count on it.

Bye,
J
--
Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Joeri, thanks for facilitating this link to the Emagic. I for one don't
expect miracles, but I'm please there's someone who can be a voice for us
all. I appreciate it! -Jer

From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Organization: Belway Productions
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 23:09:43 +0200
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS-24 conversion


An addition to my previous mail: if you can't work out a top 5 (e.g. some
people prefer Emu support over Kurzweil support or over Roland support),
then
make a poll (here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/polls)  and let
the
poll decide what's more important.

The developers already have more than enough things to do to make sure 5.0
is
released in time, so I don't think any "extra" features will be added, but
it
never hurts if they know what our priorities and maybe... if we're very
lucky,
they might be able to find the time to add a little extra anyway... but I
wouldn't count on it.

Bye,
J
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joeri@...

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>....make a poll (here: 
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/polls)  and let the
>poll decide what's more important.

Can we set up a multiple choice poll? I've only ever done a simple 
yes/no choice.

Regards & thanks - Colin

> Can we set up a multiple choice poll? I've only ever done a simple
> yes/no choice.

I _think_ this is possible.

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List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

> > Can we set up a multiple choice poll? I've only ever done a simple
> > yes/no choice.
> I _think_ this is possible.

Well well, Yahoo is still having problems. My own post just showed up 3 times
to me. :-(

Bye,
J
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joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

>I also would like Kurzweil + Emu support. And please, better 
>modulation routings! (breath, aftertouch, etc.)

So, let's see....
>
>  Priority list for EXS24:
>  1 - Native sample import from Roland,Kurzweil, EMU formats.
>  2 - Multiple outs
    3 - additional modulation routings, or modulation-matrix.

Cheers,
Thom Jenkins
Exocet Studios
Atlanta
USA

Ad this:

- Crossfading for different zones
- Drag and drop of zones and samples (from instrumenteditor  to
instrumenteditor and within the 'piano bars' at the top of the instrument
editor)
- a way of not having to scan all the instrument every time something has
changed in the Finder (apple). Now it scans all the instruments (even when
I've been in Sounddiver) which can take a minute in my case (30 gig of
samples and instruments)

thanks

Jos


Big Orange Music
+31 (0)73-6133965
+31 (0)6-51890183 
The Netherlands
http://www.big-orange.nl

From: Colin Shapiro <musos@...>
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:20:24 +0200
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS-24 conversion


Joeri wrote:

>......... if this list can work out a nice list with "priority
>items" for the EXS and write that in a letter, I'll make sure it is given to
>the right people and I'll try to get a reply too.

Thanks Joeri !! I'll start.

Priority list for EXS24:
1 - Native sample import from Roland format
2 - Multiple outs

Feel free to add to this list folks.

Regards - Colin


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Hi folks,

I've created a new MULTIPLE CHOICE poll as Joeri suggested.
However, if I edit the poll, existing votes are lost. So.....

*DON'T VOTE YET*

Please respond to this list with any other wishes and I'll add them 
in the next 2 days - then we can all vote.

So far I've collected:
1  More sample conversion (see other poll)
2  Multiple outs & separate bus allocation
3  Velocity crossfades between layers
4  Additional modulation routings, or modulation-matrix
5  Drag and drop of zones and samples
6  Bypass scan of all the instruments when loading

Let's use this opportunity.

Regards - Colin

Not to me, though...

From: Joeri Vankeirsbilck <joeri@...>
Organization: Belway Productions
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 01:04:21 +0200
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS-24 conversion


> > Can we set up a multiple choice poll? I've only ever done a simple
> > yes/no choice.
> I _think_ this is possible.

Well well, Yahoo is still having problems. My own post just showed up 3
times
to me. :-(

Bye,
J
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joeri@...

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List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM



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User defined folder for exs-instrument search (not the hole drive) and the
EXS should search the samples in the instrument folder first.

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Colin Shapiro [mailto:musos@...]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2001 15:36
> An: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [exs] New poll - don't vote yet!!
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've created a new MULTIPLE CHOICE poll as Joeri suggested.
> However, if I edit the poll, existing votes are lost. So.....
>
> *DON'T VOTE YET*
>
> Please respond to this list with any other wishes and I'll add them
> in the next 2 days - then we can all vote.
>
> So far I've collected:
> 1  More sample conversion (see other poll)
> 2  Multiple outs & separate bus allocation
> 3  Velocity crossfades between layers
> 4  Additional modulation routings, or modulation-matrix
> 5  Drag and drop of zones and samples
> 6  Bypass scan of all the instruments when loading
>
> Let's use this opportunity.
>
> Regards - Colin
>
>
>
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>
>

I always use CDxtract for conversion and getting good results.
I used it before for my Akai S6000 (anyone wanna buy :-))

It seems that 31 people have already voted in the poll I set up so I 
can't change or update now without losing the votes already cast.

So.....I'll set up a second poll tomorrow if there are enough extra choices.
If you haven't voted yet go here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/polls
and select the link to: Top wishlist features for EXS24

You can vote for MORE THAN ONE item.

I already received:

>User defined folder for exs-instrument search (not the hole drive) and the
>EXS should search the samples in the instrument folder first.

I'll add it to the new poll.

Regards - Colin

Colin,

My wish list is priority order is:

1. Ability to easily change a given parameter for all selected zones or 
groups at one time, e.g. to select several zones by clicking on the 
bars in the keyboard window and then assigning them all to the same 
group at once.

2. Ability to switch and/or crossfade between waveforms based on Midi 
events other than velocity, e.g. to switch between normal and sustain 
piano samples by holding down the sustain pedal.

3. Key note cross-fades between groups, e.g. cross-fading between a 
cello group and a viola group as you move up the keyboard.

4. 4-time parameter, 3-level parameter amplitude envelopes a la Roland.

Regards,
James

--- In exs-users@y..., Colin Shapiro <musos@i...> wrote:

> It seems that 31 people have already voted in the poll I set up so I 
> can't change or update now without losing the votes already cast.
> 
> So.....I'll set up a second poll tomorrow if there are enough extra choices.
> If you haven't voted yet go here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/polls
> and select the link to: Top wishlist features for EXS24
> 
> You can vote for MORE THAN ONE item.
> 
> I already received:
> 
> >User defined folder for exs-instrument search (not the hole drive) and the
> >EXS should search the samples in the instrument folder first.
> 
> I'll add it to the new poll.
> 
> Regards - Colin

Whew!

I'll try to get each of those into a one-liner....

Regards - Colin

>Colin,
>
>My wish list is priority order is:
>
>1. Ability to easily change a given parameter for all selected zones or
>groups at one time, e.g. to by clicking on the
>bars in the keyboard window select several zones and then assigning 
>them all to the same
>group at once.
>
>2. Ability to switch and/or crossfade between waveforms based on Midi
>events other than velocity, e.g. to switch between normal and sustain
>piano samples by holding down the sustain pedal.
>
>3. Key note cross-fades between groups, e.g. cross-fading between a
>cello group and a viola group as you move up the keyboard.
>
>4. 4-time parameter, 3-level parameter amplitude envelopes a la Roland.
>
>Regards,
>James

Hi gang,

I've opened the second poll of suggestions posted to this list.
Again, it's MULTIPLE choice - vote for as many options as you like 
(within reason).

I hope I've managed to condense all the wishes into understandable 
sentences. If I have time, I'll copy all the original posts into one 
e-mail and forward it to Joeri to send to Emagic along with the poll 
results (hope that's okay).

No more please....... I've got to get back to work now.......writing 
music!  :-)

Regards and thanks for all the input- Colin