EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi All:

I've been having problems using EXS24 drums and piano lately (the Pop drum kit and Pop 
piano instruments that come with the program), and I'm hoping someone out there can 
point the way to a solution. 

When recording a basic drum part or piano part, using my controller keyboard for both 
instruments, in a not-very-complex song, things feel  very sluggish, to the point that it 
inhibits my playing. 

Furthermore, when playing the track back, I notice that the performance that was recorded 
is actually different ( and worse).

As an experiment, I tried stripping the song of everything but my drums and piano--all 
plug-ins, audio files, other virtual instruments, etc.--and then playing my parts again. 
This time, the feel on both instruments was fine, and the playback was identical to what I'd 
played in (though I got nasty digital fuzz if I used the sustain pedal too much). 

So my question is, what's  the best way to address this? I'm running L7 1.1 on a 1ghz 
AlBook with 1.5 MB RAM. Do I just need more horsepower from the CPU? I was looking into 
getting a node computer, but then discovered that you can't  offload EXS instances to a 
node. 

I feel like I should be able to run more than 2 EXS24s without choking my machine. Is 
there something I'm missing? 

thanks very much for all  your help! ~ mike b.

You mention stripping your sequence of everything _but_ the piano and 
drum parts to get rid of the sluggishness. What exactly are the other 
instruments/plug-ins in your song?

Ned


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Ned Bouhalassa <ned@n...> wrote:
>
> You mention stripping your sequence of everything _but_ the piano and 
> drum parts to get rid of the sluggishness. What exactly are the other 
> instruments/plug-ins in your song?
> 
> Ned
> 
> 
>   ___  Ned Bouhalassa  ___
>   > > http://nedfx.com < <
>   ::::: ned@n... ::::

Ned, thanks for the quick reply. 

The only other elements to the song are:
* 4 tracks of audio
* one EVB3
* one other EXS24 (just playing a quarter-note shaker part)
* one Silver Verb on a bus
* Compressor and AdLimiter on Master Out

Oh, and I'm running OSX 10.4.2
>

heykaboom wrote:
> * Compressor and AdLimiter on Master Out

! ! !

Did you run the AdLimiter while recording/playing?
No wonder things are feeling sluggish. The AdLimiter is adding an enormous amount of latency. And obviously, for anything realtime
this can't be compensated. As a result, your recordings can't be in time.

- Sascha

On 10/9/05 1:18 AM, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...> wrote:

> heykaboom wrote:
>> * Compressor and AdLimiter on Master Out
> 
> ! ! !
> 
> Did you run the AdLimiter while recording/playing?
> No wonder things are feeling sluggish. The AdLimiter is adding an enormous
> amount of latency. And obviously, for anything realtime
> this can't be compensated. As a result, your recordings can't be in time.
> 
> - Sascha

Sascha is correct.  I also made the same mistake a while back -  and totally
freaked with the horrible sluggish/delay....

-  so what I learned -  the simple story: while I am recording parts -
never put anything on the master outs -  especially CPU Hogs like the
AdLimiter.

--
Thanks - RevDave
CoolCat@...
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> -  so what I learned -  the simple story: while I am recording parts -
> never put anything on the master outs -  especially CPU Hogs like the
> AdLimiter.

It's got nothing to do with the AdLimiter being a CPU hog though (which, IMO at least, it isn't). It's simply got to do with the
additional latency.

Regards,
Sascha