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2006-03-22 by Tom Harrer
Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical Instruments successfully? I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always cut off notes in the lower registers. Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence my message to see if anyone has got it to work. Tom
2006-03-23 by Peter Ostry
On 22.03.2006, at 18:12, Tom Harrer wrote: > Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical > Instruments successfully? > I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always > cut off notes in the lower registers. Confirmed. I have also some short notes at certain velocities. My left hand likes to produce them, yes, lower registers. Some vanished after the last upgrade but some are still here. Not bad for me because I don't talk to the Lady very often, play rather slowly and can fix the few instances afterwards. I don't know if we could do something on our own, was always too lazy to jump into these billions of samples... ___ Peter Ostry
2006-03-23 by Pete Thomas
Tom Harrer wrote: > Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical > Instruments successfully? > I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always > cut off notes in the lower registers. > Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. > He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence > my message to see if anyone has got it to work. I'm using it, can you be more specific about which notes, I'll run a test on it. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
2006-03-24 by Tom Harrer
> Tom Harrer wrote: >> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >> Instruments successfully? >> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >> cut off notes in the lower registers. >> Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. >> He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence >> my message to see if anyone has got it to work. > > > I'm using it, can you be more specific about which notes, I'll run a > test on it. > > > -- > Pete Thomas > www.petethomas.co.uk You can't really miss it if you improvise and hold your left hand down for the full decay. Many of the notes get cut off after about 2-3 seconds. The virtual memory info will show the number of samples not loaded in time. It is so bad that you can't really play this instrument. Tom Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
2006-03-26 by Pete Thomas
Tom Harrer wrote: >> Tom Harrer wrote: >>> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >>> Instruments successfully? >>> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >>> cut off notes in the lower registers. >>> Michiel Post has updated it several times but none fixed this issue. >>> He also doesn't seem to want to communicate about this problem, hence >>> my message to see if anyone has got it to work. >> >> I'm using it, can you be more specific about which notes, I'll run a >> test on it. >> >> >> -- >> Pete Thomas >> www.petethomas.co.uk > > You can't really miss it if you improvise and hold your left hand > down for the full decay. Many of the notes get cut off after about > 2-3 seconds. > The virtual memory info will show the number of samples not loaded in > time. > > It is so bad that you can't really play this instrument. > Hmmm....I can't seem to get it to happen. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
2006-03-26 by Peter Ostry
>> Tom Harrer wrote: >> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >> Instruments successfully? >> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >> cut off notes in the lower registers. > > On 26.03.2006, at 09:38, Pete Thomas wrote: > Hmmm....I can't seem to get it to happen. Indeed a strange problem, I have this short notes also but cannot properly reproduce the failure. Right now I loaded the (full) Old Lady and played a quiet B1 which I know as problematic around a velocity of 20-30. And it was abruptly cut off after a second or so. But not when I played it again. I made a series of B1's in the score with increasing velocity - nothing. I played a lot of notes rather quickly - nothing, the B1 was ok. Then I played a short tune with pedal and everything and afterwards a single B1 it was cutoff at velo 17 and at 21 and played ok from now on. Maybe it has something to do with the huge number of samples and the memory handling of the EXS? ___ Peter Ostry
2006-03-27 by Tom Harrer
On 27/03/2006, at 4: 15, Peter Ostry wrote: >>> Tom Harrer wrote: >>> Is anyone using the "Old Lady" piano sample set from Post Musical >>> Instruments successfully? >>> I would love to use this fine sounding piano, but there are always >>> cut off notes in the lower registers. >> >> On 26.03.2006, at 09:38, Pete Thomas wrote: >> Hmmm....I can't seem to get it to happen. > > Indeed a strange problem, I have this short notes also but cannot > properly reproduce the failure. Right now I loaded the (full) Old > Lady and played a quiet B1 which I know as problematic around a > velocity of 20-30. And it was abruptly cut off after a second or so. > But not when I played it again. I made a series of B1's in the score > with increasing velocity - nothing. I played a lot of notes rather > quickly - nothing, the B1 was ok. Then I played a short tune with > pedal and everything and afterwards a single B1 it was cutoff at velo > 17 and at 21 and played ok from now on. > > Maybe it has something to do with the huge number of samples and the > memory handling of the EXS? > > ___ > Peter Ostry Well, thank you to both Petes for testing this. I guess it must be possible to get the Old Lady to work. My problem with cut off notes is so severe that I can't use this instrument. I would really like to know how to fix it... I'm running a Dual 1.8 G5 with 2 Gigs of ram, OS 10.4.5 and Logic 7.1.1. Should be more than enough for this piano. EXS is using virtual memory and consistently accumulates samples not loaded in time errors with the Old Lady. Could it have anything to do with the samples being 48k? Would EXS manager help? I did try the demo, as per instructions on the PMI site, with no improvement. Cheers Tom
2006-03-27 by Peter Ostry
On 27.03.2006, at 04:36, Tom Harrer wrote: > Could it have anything to do with the samples being 48k? > Would EXS manager help? No, all my samples are organized by ExsManager and the program does not show an error. And all samples of the Lady are found and loaded, that is what ExsManager assures. The problem is the playback. ___ Peter Ostry
2006-03-27 by Julie Larson
Tom, You've probably looked at these issues...but thought I'd throw them out there anyway. How do you have the polyphony set in the EXS window....how many voices? It's a really simple thing but sometimes overlooked.... when it's set to something like 12 or even 32 for a piano part, you can experience note cut-offs. Push it up to 64 the pedal runs polyphony through the roof. Another thing....if you're running other EXS instruments in addition to your Old Lady RAM could be an issue. 2 gig isn't that much these days. Try freezing your Old Lady track or doing an offline bounce....and see if the note cut- offs are still there. If they're not, I suspect ram. my 2 cents.... julie www.julielarson.net
2006-03-27 by Peter Ostry
On 27.03.2006, at 16:10, Julie Larson wrote: > Tom ... How do you have the polyphony set in the EXS > window....how many voices? It's a really simple thing but sometimes > overlooked.... when it's set to something like 12 or even 32 for a > piano part, you can experience note cut-offs. Push it up to 64 ... I am usually at 64 voices for pianos because my rather poor playing requires a lot of pedal work. I reduce the voices only if I encounter performance problems. > ... if you're running other > EXS instruments in addition to your Old Lady ... During my test the Lady was the only track in the whole file and the B1, a personal friend of mine, did cut off occasionally. Strange, that problem ... > ... Try freezing your > Old Lady track or doing an offline bounce... Tom wants to play - freezing would be bad for his fingers :-) ___ Peter Ostry