EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Is there any way to crossfade between sample sets using an LFO? I am building layered, 
electronica-based drum kits, with different treatments, and I want to use an LFO to switch 
between samples sets. I also want to apply this method to do wave mixing. I know how to do 
round robin, and to use the mod wheel to do switching, but I'd like to use the LFOs. I've also 
tried this with Kontakt 2, but to no avail.

Thanks,

Matt
http://www.mimomusic.com

At 05:50 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote:

>Is there any way to crossfade between sample sets using an LFO? I am 
>building layered,
>electronica-based drum kits, with different treatments, and I want 
>to use an LFO to switch
>between samples sets. I also want to apply this method to do wave 
>mixing. I know how to do
>round robin, and to use the mod wheel to do switching, but I'd like 
>to use the LFOs. I've also
>tried this with Kontakt 2, but to no avail.

There is a difference between "switching" and "fading". The main 
difference is that "switching" means that "this sample(s) are 
available when you do something" whereas "fading" means "this 
sample(s) sounds as you do something".

Fading is real time, whereas switching is "setup" time (if you can 
call it that).

You'll notice in EXS24 that switching is quite versatile (to the 
sample level), whereas fading is global, so it's much more 
restrictive. Kontakt lifts those restrictions.

Is this your desire, for example:

You hit a key, and an ambulance siren, a loud buzzer, and a sinewave 
are all playing at once, but you only hear the ambulence. As the LFO 
plays through, the siren fades out and the buzzer fades in, and then 
the buzzer fades out and the sinewave fades in, then the sincewave 
fades out and the siren fades in, and on and on. Is that what you are after?

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

> 
> You hit a key, and an ambulance siren, a loud buzzer, and a sinewave 
> are all playing at once, but you only hear the ambulence. As the LFO 
> plays through, the siren fades out and the buzzer fades in, and then 
> the buzzer fades out and the sinewave fades in, then the sincewave 
> fades out and the siren fades in, and on and on. Is that what you are after?
> 
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
>
Hey Garth,
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm after.

Matt

At 07:30 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote:

> > You hit a key, and an ambulance siren, a loud buzzer, and a sinewave
> > are all playing at once, but you only hear the ambulence. As the LFO
> > plays through, the siren fades out and the buzzer fades in, and then
> > the buzzer fades out and the sinewave fades in, then the sincewave
> > fades out and the siren fades in, and on and on. Is that what you 
> are after?

>Yeah, this is exactly what I'm after.

Yeah, this is a good instance where the lack of sample-level LFO and 
modulators in the EXS bites you. But you know what you could do:

Make 2 or more EXS instruments. Each instrument would have the same 
LFO setup where it would mod volume and perhaps use a sawtooth wave 
or similar. One instrument would have it straight, the other would 
invert the modulation.

In Kontakt, this would be easy - instead of using LFO's, use Flex 
Envelopes, and loop the envelopes, and you can custom-draw you fade 
ins and fade outs. And you could do it with one instrument.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Garth Hjelte <garth@...> wrote:
>
> At 07:30 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote:
> 
> > > You hit a key, and an ambulance siren, a loud buzzer, and a sinewave
> > > are all playing at once, but you only hear the ambulence. As the LFO
> > > plays through, the siren fades out and the buzzer fades in, and then
> > > the buzzer fades out and the sinewave fades in, then the sincewave
> > > fades out and the siren fades in, and on and on. Is that what you 
> > are after?
> 
> >Yeah, this is exactly what I'm after.
> 
> Yeah, this is a good instance where the lack of sample-level LFO and 
> modulators in the EXS bites you. But you know what you could do:
> 
> Make 2 or more EXS instruments. Each instrument would have the same 
> LFO setup where it would mod volume and perhaps use a sawtooth wave 
> or similar. One instrument would have it straight, the other would 
> invert the modulation.
> 
> In Kontakt, this would be easy - instead of using LFO's, use Flex 
> Envelopes, and loop the envelopes, and you can custom-draw you fade 
> ins and fade outs. And you could do it with one instrument.

Thanks, Garth - Flex Envelopes it is.

Matt