EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Message posted by Dino Virella <dino@...>:

Crossfades and Cannelloni Summer Tour

Please join us for a very special VIP event featuring Redmatica software
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If you\ufffdre an Apple Logic user, these products will also interest you
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WHO YOU SHOULD BE THERE?

\ufffd           Owners of ANY soft-sampler (Kontakt, Structure, Mach5, Halion,
etc.)
\ufffd           Logic 8 Users
\ufffd           Owners of vintage keyboard collections
\ufffd           Owners of HUGE sound libraries struggling with file management
\ufffd           Artists, producers and engineers looking for THE easy way to get
unique sound and/or instruments

PRODUCTS COVERED

Keymap 1.5

\ufffd           Winner of Electronic Musician Magazine's 2008 Editors Choice
Award
\ufffd           The most complete and intuitive sample editor
available...period!
\ufffd           Seamless integration with Apple Logic Pro 8/Studio
\ufffd           Best-in-class automatic looping/slicing/transient detection
\ufffd           Innovative harmonic resynthesis
\ufffd           Advanced tuning/pitch functions
\ufffd           Surround sound and spacialization utilities
\ufffd           Full compatibility with popular virtual samplers, including
Kontakt, MachFive, Halion, and more, plus output in multiple file formats

ExsManager

\ufffd           Manage and optimize sampler instruments on your hard drive with
blazing speed
\ufffd           Automatically find and re-link missing samples to instruments
\ufffd           Detect duplicate and unused samples, consolidate samples for
improved performance
\ufffd           THE replacement for the old Project Manager in Logic 7, 6, etc.

AutoSampler

\ufffd           Fully automated sampling of MIDI synths and sound modules\ufffd-even
MIDIed pianos and multiple sources!
\ufffd           Quickly and easily archive your hardware instrument collection
as convenient soft-synth patches
\ufffd           Fully programmable set up with advanced layering, velocity
switching, patch selections, and more
\ufffd           Automatic sample processing, including normalization, phase
alignment, and trim

I'm very late to the party on this, but thanks to the 
about-to-expire-too-good-to-refuse upgrade offer from Vienna, I 
upgraded from my variety of Horizon Series EXS24 sample sets to the 
Special Edition and SE Extended version. I'm now kicking myself for 
taking so long to make the change. It's a slick and intuitive 
interface, every function that was previously part of the EXS24 
programming is streamlined and efficient, and many things that I 
would previously avoid altogether (or at least dread) are now a piece 
of cake. Having all the string articulations on a single track will 
make score creation much easier. This is one impressive piece of software.

I haven't completely torture-tested it yet, but it appears by way of 
the Activity Monitor that the Vienna Instrument uses its own shell of 
sorts, and adding more instruments has very little effect on the 
amount of memory Logic is using. As I'm still on OSX.4.11, Logic 
7.2.3 and a G5, I'm sure there is still a 3.5 GB limitation on a 
single program, but I'm wondering if Vienna can load that much 
independently of Logic. Has anybody tested this?

On that note, I caught on the Vienna Forum that people using the 
Horizon Series are having major problems with the VSL Performance 
Tool and Logic 8. Any corroborators?

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@...> wrote:
>

> I haven't completely torture-tested it yet, but it appears by way of 
> the Activity Monitor that the Vienna Instrument uses its own shell of 
> sorts, and adding more instruments has very little effect on the 
> amount of memory Logic is using. As I'm still on OSX.4.11, Logic 
> 7.2.3 and a G5, I'm sure there is still a 3.5 GB limitation on a 
> single program, but I'm wondering if Vienna can load that much 
> independently of Logic. Has anybody tested this?
> 
> On that note, I caught on the Vienna Forum that people using the 
> Horizon Series are having major problems with the VSL Performance 
> Tool and Logic 8. Any corroborators?
>

I use the Standalone Vienna Ensemble that I feed thru IAC, that works great !

Best 
Cyril

At 08:39 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:

>--- In 
><mailto:exs-users%40yahoogroups.com>exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean 
>McCoy <osr@...> wrote:
> >
>
> > I haven't completely torture-tested it yet, but it appears by way of
> > the Activity Monitor that the Vienna Instrument uses its own shell of
> > sorts, and adding more instruments has very little effect on the
> > amount of memory Logic is using. As I'm still on OSX.4.11, Logic
> > 7.2.3 and a G5, I'm sure there is still a 3.5 GB limitation on a
> > single program, but I'm wondering if Vienna can load that much
> > independently of Logic. Has anybody tested this?
> >
> > On that note, I caught on the Vienna Forum that people using the
> > Horizon Series are having major problems with the VSL Performance
> > Tool and Logic 8. Any corroborators?
> >
>
>I use the Standalone Vienna Ensemble that I feed thru IAC, that works great !
>
>Best
>Cyril

But you're using that with Vienna Instruments, not EXS24, correct?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>I'm very late to the party on this, but thanks to the
>about-to-expire-too-good-to-refuse upgrade offer from Vienna, I
>upgraded from my variety of Horizon Series EXS24 sample sets to the
>Special Edition and SE Extended version.

[snip]
>.... I caught on the Vienna Forum that people using the
>Horizon Series are having major problems with the VSL Performance
>Tool and Logic 8. Any corroborators?

Hi Sean,

If I recall correctly, the Perf tool does *work* in Logic 8 - you 
just can't edit. When you install Logic 8 you should keep Logic 7 on 
your system (it does this by default). Then you can use v7 to edit 
Perf tool stuff which you can then use in v8 (yes....pain in the 
butt...)
Bear in mind that you don't need the Perf tool for Vienna Instruments 
(VI), only for your EXS24 Horizon stuff (which you may as well keep)

Another reason to keep Logic 7 is if you have old songs made pre 
Logic 5, you can't open them in v8 - you have to open them in v7, 
re-save etc.

VI is really great. You should also get the free download of Vienna 
Ensemble v2 - also extremely useful.

Enjoy......

Regards - Colin

At 11:06 AM 7/28/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Sean,
>
>If I recall correctly, the Perf tool does *work* in Logic 8 - you
>just can't edit. When you install Logic 8 you should keep Logic 7 on
>your system (it does this by default). Then you can use v7 to edit
>Perf tool stuff which you can then use in v8 (yes....pain in the
>butt...)
>Bear in mind that you don't need the Perf tool for Vienna Instruments
>(VI), only for your EXS24 Horizon stuff (which you may as well keep)

Right, and the legato instruments work so much better in Vienna 
Instruments I'm ulikely to ever use them from EXS again, much less 
need to edit the tool. Good to know it is at least accessible, 
though. At least one person on the VSL forum said it was 
non-functional. I bought Logic 8 right after it came out, but have 
been hesitant to install it for fear of hosing up my works in 
progress. But I think the inevitable has finally arrived. Just need 
to make a new clone first!


>Another reason to keep Logic 7 is if you have old songs made pre
>Logic 5, you can't open them in v8 - you have to open them in v7,
>re-save etc.
>
>VI is really great. You should also get the free download of Vienna
>Ensemble v2 - also extremely useful.

I'll check it out, though I really like having each instrument on its 
own Arrange track (especially for score purposes), and VI doesn't hog 
too much memory. What advantages are you finding to using Ensemble?

> >I use the Standalone Vienna Ensemble that I feed thru IAC, that works great !
> >
> >Best
> >Cyril
>
> But you're using that with Vienna Instruments, not EXS24, correct?


Yes,
I have Appassionata play by an IAC Vienna Ensemble
The Wind, Brass and percussion are from QLSO Platinum and are played by a standalone
Kontakt 2 instrument
I lad the Vienna Ensemble and the K2 instrument at boot
When I load a song in logic it's very quick, it does not take time to pass from one song to
another !

Best

Cyril

>I have Appassionata play by an IAC Vienna Ensemble
>The Wind, Brass and percussion are from QLSO Platinum and are played 
>by a standalone
>Kontakt 2 instrument
>I lad the Vienna Ensemble and the K2 instrument at boot
>When I load a song in logic it's very quick, it does not take time 
>to pass from one song to
>another !

Hi Cyril,

How did how solve your problem of getting audio from VE into Logic?

Regards - Colin

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Colin Shapiro <musos@...> wrote:
>
> >I have Appassionata play by an IAC Vienna Ensemble
> >The Wind, Brass and percussion are from QLSO Platinum and are played 
> >by a standalone
> >Kontakt 2 instrument
> >I load the Vienna Ensemble and the K2 instrument at boot
> >When I load a song in logic it's very quick, it does not take time 
> >to pass from one song to
> >another !
> 
> Hi Cyril,
> 
> How did how solve your problem of getting audio from VE into Logic?
> 
> Regards - Colin
>
I had some spare ADAT in and out on my Motu system
 
So I just put ADAT cable from to OUT on an IN, so simple solution !

You can also use Jackosx :)

Best

Cyril