EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi Ned and EXS junkies,

Thanks for your replies about trying to solve this problem. This is what I 
tried first. It seems pretty clear that there is no acceptable solution. The 
latency this way is horrendous, and it isn't practical for our application to 
have to have Logic in play mode while playing live. I found that you can also 
accomplish the same result by record enabling two Audio Instrument tracks, 
but you still have to be in play and the latency is no good.

Bummer! Guess I'll have to try VSTi Host on another computer or something.

Thanks for the effort guys...

-EP


In a message dated 12/12/01 8:39:01 PM, ned@... writes:

>I'm not sure if the problem of running two or more 
>instruments simultaneously from one controller was 
>ever answered (I wasn't able to log on to yahoo 
>groups tonight to check the archive...), but here 
>is my solution:
>
>1. Add a Transformer object to your Audio layer
>
>2. Make its icon visible (so it appears in the 
>Arrange page)
>
>3. Cable its output to 2 or more VSTinstruments 
>(like EXS)
>
>4. Record-enable a track with the Transformer in 
>the Arrange page
>
>5. Hit play (Logic has to be running in order for 
>this to work - which of course is the point: to be 
>able to 'jam' with more than one instrument 
>playing at the same time)
>
>Do I win a prize? Or am I too late?
>
>Ned
>
>PS: I'm sure there's a certain level of 
>latency/delay, but I haven't done any definitive 
>checks/calculations.
>
>
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PersingEP@a... wrote:
> Hi Ned and EXS junkies,
> Thanks for your replies about trying to solve this problem. This is 
hat I 
> tried first. It seems pretty clear that there is no acceptable 
olution. The 
> latency this way is horrendous, and it isn't practical for our 
pplication to 
> have to have Logic in play mode while playing live. I found that ou 
can also 
> accomplish the same result by record enabling two Audio Instrument 
racks, 
> but you still have to be in play and the latency is no good.
> 
> Bummer! Guess I'll have to try VSTi Host on another computer or 
omething.
> 
> Thanks for the effort guys...


So does everyone think the multiple outs shown in the beta 5.2 at 
MusikMesse will make EXS more suitable for live playing? Will 
everyone just have to create massive EXS instruments to load into one 
instance of EXS and then set up all the separate layers to go to 
multiple outs -- the same limitation of having to have the VSTi track 
selected & have Logic in Play mode will still exist, right? So for 
example a massive multi-timbral EXS24 instance couldn't peacfully 
coexist with multiple instances of Eric's new VST instruments, having 
multiple VSTi tracks being controlled live?

With the Midiman Surface One coming out soon, the Roland HPD15 
already available, and a new touch & velocity sensitive MIDI 
controller (AKAI PD15 I think is the name) announced recently... It 
would really be a shame to have all these awesome touch sensitive 
controllers be crippled by only being able to control one virtual 
instrument at a time.

I guess by the time I can actually afford a few of those controllers 
it'll probably be fixed though... ;-)

Jeremy

In a message dated 4/6/02 11:19:14 AM, sadus@... writes:

>... It 
>would really be a shame to have all these awesome touch sensitive 
>controllers be crippled by only being able to control one virtual 
>instrument at a time.

I agree...I think it is a major limitation of logic. Cubase can do it fine, 
as can DP.....arrrgh.

Its even frustrating the way you only have audio in logic on one instrument. 
Our new modules have a Preview button which is very handy for sorting out 
what you doing....course it only works on the selected track in Logic, but 
works perfectly on every other host.

-EP

I agree...I think it is a major limitation of logic. Cubase can do it fine,
as can DP.....arrrgh.
Its even frustrating the way you only have audio in logic on one instrument.
Our new modules have a Preview button which is very handy for sorting out
what you doing....course it only works on the selected track in Logic, but
works perfectly on every other host.
-EP
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all those stuff are working good on 5.1...
try to have latest version of Logic to prepare VSTi Instruments...
after u gonna said again : " it's logic, etc..."
Multi Outs work on Beta 2 perfectly.....