EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Happy New year

Any one looking for great soundfonts to use with the EXS24 or EXSP24 This a 
great site filled with free Soundfonts: http://www.bananaquartz.com/ One of 
the great things you don't have to worry about uncompressing anything. Other 
sites I have been to have so many different forms of compression software 
that only works with windows. This is a great site with some very good 
samples for all types of music. Also I finally took a small gamble and 
bought some sound fonts from EMU and they are great quality for the money. 
Any one looking for great Sound fonts chek out EMU as well: 
http://www.soundfont.com/generalmidi.html
Paul Martinson





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Paul Martinson wrote:
>Any one looking for great soundfonts to use with the EXS24 or EXSP24 This a
>great site filled with free Soundfonts: http://www.bananaquartz.com/

Thanks for the lead Paul.
Someone please confirm this:
When the EXS24 converts Soundfonts, there is some data (filter) that gets lost.
Is that still true?
If so, maybe v5.x of Logic will improve things.

Regards - Colin

Colin Shapiro wrote:
> Thanks for the lead Paul.

Yes, thanks from here too. Looks like an incredible site. Let's hope the
quality is good as well.

> Someone please confirm this:
> When the EXS24 converts Soundfonts, there is some data (filter) that gets
lost.
> Is that still true?

Yes, it is still true.
But, I don't think this can be sorted out as soundfonts "organize" their
filter settings completely different. For example, to achieve a velocity
responding filter effect you'd have to adjust the filter offset for each
zone individually. The EXS format doesn't allow for this and that might be
the reason why certain soundfonts aren't interpreted correctly.
Maybe HALion does it any better but I haven't tried yet (will eventually do
later on).
No biggie for me though as setting up the EXS filter by your own is not such
a big deal.

If you want *full* soundfont compatibility, there's the Bismark SF2 player:
http://homepage.mac.com/bismark/english.html
(site seems to be down right now)
They have a demo there.

Regards,
Sascha

>  > When the EXS24 converts Soundfonts, there is some data (filter) that gets
>lost.
>>  Is that still true?

Sascha Frank replied:

>Yes, it is still true.

Thanks for confirming that.

>If you want *full* soundfont compatibility, there's the Bismark SF2 player:
>http://homepage.mac.com/bismark/english.html
>(site seems to be down right now)
>They have a demo there.


...and thanks Sascha for that bookmark.

Regards - Colin

I have commented on this several times. Critical filter/mod data does NOT
get converted. Only Translator (unless they've already done it) has plans to
convert this data. Only drums are useful for now when converted by the EXS
or HALion. All synth patches suck in my opinion when compared to how they
are intended to sound. It makes it impossible to collaborate with my PC
producer partners because I don't hear the sounds as they are supposed to be
heard. Go with Translator by www.chickensys.com if you take soundfonts
seriously.

> From: Colin Shapiro <musos@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:20:56 +0200
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] Great Quailty Soundfonts!
> 
> Paul Martinson wrote:
>> Any one looking for great soundfonts to use with the EXS24 or EXSP24 This a
>> great site filled with free Soundfonts: http://www.bananaquartz.com/
> 
> Thanks for the lead Paul.
> Someone please confirm this:
> When the EXS24 converts Soundfonts, there is some data (filter) that gets
> lost.
> Is that still true?
> If so, maybe v5.x of Logic will improve things.
> 
> Regards - Colin
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<HELP@...> wrote:
> I have commented on this several times. Critical filter/mod data does NOT
> get converted. Only Translator (unless they've already done it) has plans
to
> convert this data. Only drums are useful for now when converted by the EXS
> or HALion. All synth patches suck in my opinion when compared to how they
> are intended to sound.

Well, I posted this allready:
http://homepage.mac.com/bismark/products_english.html
has a soundfont VSTi for both Mac and PC.
I loaded some soundfonts into their demo and compared them with what they
sound like when loaded into a real Soundblaster Live! card (which I had in
my machine for a while). They sounded almost identical.
So far the best choice to be SF2 compatible unless you have an SBLive (which
I really can't recommend at all).

Regards,
Sascha

This is terrific news. Don't know how I missed it before. I'll be sure to
check it out. Thanks.

> From: "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:28:42 +0100
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] Great Quailty Soundfonts!
> 
> <HELP@...> wrote:
>> I have commented on this several times. Critical filter/mod data does NOT
>> get converted. Only Translator (unless they've already done it) has plans
> to
>> convert this data. Only drums are useful for now when converted by the EXS
>> or HALion. All synth patches suck in my opinion when compared to how they
>> are intended to sound.
> 
> Well, I posted this allready:
> http://homepage.mac.com/bismark/products_english.html
> has a soundfont VSTi for both Mac and PC.
> I loaded some soundfonts into their demo and compared them with what they
> sound like when loaded into a real Soundblaster Live! card (which I had in
> my machine for a while). They sounded almost identical.
> So far the best choice to be SF2 compatible unless you have an SBLive (which
> I really can't recommend at all).
> 
> Regards,
> Sascha
> 
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