EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi...I'm no expert on this.......!
Yes this is a common thing. The latency is a combination of driversettings on your soundcard and settings in Logic. Are you using ASIO driver for your card? I use a LX6 Aardvark card & asio and I can reduce latency while tweeking ASIO buffer size on the soundcards controlpanel. 4ms is the lowest I can get when playing EXS directly from my masterkeyboard. Best thing to do is, record midi with the sound from your keyboard. Then connect the miditrack to EXS when playback in Logic.

Thor Mamen



"Hey, I'm playing a Yamaha midi keyboard through my mixer using a GINA audio
card.  I get a slight delay as I play the EXS24.  I press the note on the
keyboard and I hear the note come in slightly late.  I'm sure this is a
common thing but I'm new to midi.  Does anyone know how I can cut down on
that delay?  Is there a way to optimize the settings for the GINA card?
Could it be my keyboard isn't good enough to use as a MIDI controller?"
(It's a cheap Yamaha PSR 262)

Thanks,

Joe



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While on Macs the Mac/AV latency may be good enough for realtime playing of
virtual instruments, on Windows:
a) there's no such thing as a generic AV driver/card, so there's no "common"
latency adjustment trick either,
b) most "standard" MME cards don't deliver low enough latencies to even
think about realtime playback.

The only solution is to get a card coming with proper ASIO drivers (well,
lately I heard quite some good reports about low latencies for some WDM
drivers, the Delta cards have very good ones I think).
To lower that latency you gotta check your cards driver/ASIO setup utility.
Anything below 10ms should give you a feeling being as good as many
standalone modules being played through MIDI. The appropriate buffer setting
at 44.1kHz should be something between 300 and 500 samples (512 samples @
44.1kHz = 12ms latency).
I don't know about the GINA, but it should offer buffersizes that low.
Usually the lowest available buffersize however raises the CPU burden a bit,
so I would try if the second to lowest setting is still good enough
(personally I am pretty happy with the 6ms I'm getting out of my current
card, a TerraTec MT88).

Regards,
Sascha

What about EEmagic EASI drivers? Does anybody use
them?
I have the same problem with latency using ASIO (on my
PC), but wen I'm decreasing buffer the system is
overloading...I think maybe EASI?



--- Sascha Franck <saschafranck@...>
wrote:
> While on Macs the Mac/AV latency may be good enough
> for realtime playing of
> virtual instruments, on Windows:
> a) there's no such thing as a generic AV
> driver/card, so there's no "common"
> latency adjustment trick either,
> b) most "standard" MME cards don't deliver low
> enough latencies to even
> think about realtime playback.
> 
> The only solution is to get a card coming with
> proper ASIO drivers (well,
> lately I heard quite some good reports about low
> latencies for some WDM
> drivers, the Delta cards have very good ones I
> think).
> To lower that latency you gotta check your cards
> driver/ASIO setup utility.
> Anything below 10ms should give you a feeling being
> as good as many
> standalone modules being played through MIDI. The
> appropriate buffer setting
> at 44.1kHz should be something between 300 and 500
> samples (512 samples @
> 44.1kHz = 12ms latency).
> I don't know about the GINA, but it should offer
> buffersizes that low.
> Usually the lowest available buffersize however
> raises the CPU burden a bit,
> so I would try if the second to lowest setting is
> still good enough
> (personally I am pretty happy with the 6ms I'm
> getting out of my current
> card, a TerraTec MT88).
> 
> Regards,
> Sascha
> 
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> From: <ros_t2000@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:31:20 -0800 (PST)
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] EXS - latency while playing sampler from MIDI keyboard
> 
> What about EEmagic EASI drivers? Does anybody use
> them?
> I have the same problem with latency using ASIO (on my
> PC), but wen I'm decreasing buffer the system is
> overloading...I think maybe EASI?
> 
> 
> 
> --- Sascha Franck <saschafranck@...>
> wrote:
>> While on Macs the Mac/AV latency may be good enough
>> for realtime playing of
>> virtual instruments, on Windows:
>> a) there's no such thing as a generic AV
>> driver/card, so there's no "common"
>> latency adjustment trick either,
>> b) most "standard" MME cards don't deliver low
>> enough latencies to even
>> think about realtime playback.
>> 
>> The only solution is to get a card coming with
>> proper ASIO drivers (well,
>> lately I heard quite some good reports about low
>> latencies for some WDM
>> drivers, the Delta cards have very good ones I
>> think).
>> To lower that latency you gotta check your cards
>> driver/ASIO setup utility.
>> Anything below 10ms should give you a feeling being
>> as good as many
>> standalone modules being played through MIDI. The
>> appropriate buffer setting
>> at 44.1kHz should be something between 300 and 500
>> samples (512 samples @
>> 44.1kHz = 12ms latency).
>> I don't know about the GINA, but it should offer
>> buffersizes that low.
>> Usually the lowest available buffersize however
>> raises the CPU burden a bit,
>> so I would try if the second to lowest setting is
>> still good enough
>> (personally I am pretty happy with the 6ms I'm
>> getting out of my current
>> card, a TerraTec MT88).
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sascha
>> 
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