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Re: Translator (and finally 3)

Re: Translator (and finally 3)

2002-07-02 by bernard chavonnet

> It should be said that Translator has a Sample Player, too - but
> unfortunately it's not Magic. Our understanding is that Apple cannot put
> the "Magic" code in their OS's, because Bill Gates has a patent on it. =)

The magic player is not just a player, it's a bulk player. Select anything:
an Akai disc, a couple of Roland volumes, a folder full of Giga files or
even audio files, click on the magic player icon and CDXtract will play
them one after each other without any user interaction, like magic.

> OK, enough funniness. Translator does have a player, no difference

I disagree, Translator has a basic player that can play only forward
loops and doesn't play independent loop points. So for example
when I preview some samples from the Distorted Reality disc with
Translator they don't sound like when I play them on my S760.
CDXtract has a real time player capable of playing independent
left and right loop points with all kind of loops: forward, reverse
and alternate. It sounds exactly like the S760.

> I do want to catch up on what was discussed a couple months ago about
> Roland Deemphasis and the programs in question. Translator has the EXACT
> Roland algorithm for Emphasis (going into Roland) and DeEmphasis (going
out
> of Roland). When we say EXACT we mean that it is Roland's code, not ours.
> What is in Translator is the same processing routine as what is in the
> software of the Roland S-7x series and others. CDxtract claimed their's
was
> "exact," but I would question their usage of the term. There are
> differences in the resulting waves of each conversion program - they are
> different.

That's correct they are differences.
The main reason is that the "Enable de-emphasis filter" in Translator has
absolutely no effect on the conversion (at least on windows). When you
convert
one Roland sample with the de-emphasis activated and deactivated you get
exactly the same result, and I'm speaking about a binary comparison here,
not my ears. I have tried a lot of times with several formats that uses
independent wav files like Halion or EXS24. Maybe this is a limitation of
the
demo version but I don't think so because I clearly saw "de-emphasizing
sample" during the conversion.
I finally found a way to make this authentic de-emphasis filter work, I had
tu use the audio processor. This seems to be the only way to make that
de-emphasis work. But I'm afraid your authentic filter is not exact, you
can find the results of all my tests here: www.cdxtract.com/roland.php
Don't make me wrong, I trust you when you say that you have the Roland's
code but I think there was an error somewhere in its implementation.
Actually I know exactly what error you made and I can help you fix that
error or give you my de-emphasis algo wich I think is faster.
I don't have the Roland's code but CDXtract has the exact de-emphasis
filter and anybody who has a S760 can easily verify it with the
explanation given on the above web page.

Bernard

BTW the demos of CDXtract 4 PC/MAC are online.

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