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2003-01-09 by jonesnormand <norjones@enoreo.on.ca>
Hi, Concerning long samples of many events. Can the sample start point be asigned to a midi controller to move it around on the fly ? Normand
2003-01-09 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra
Thoughts from the mind of jonesnormand <norjones@...>, 09-01-2003: >Concerning long samples of many events. > >Can the sample start point be asigned to a midi controller to move >it around on the fly ? In the EXS mkII there is indeed a Sample Start parameter in the modulation matrix that does just that. However, people who've actually tried this (as you could have :) have discovered that this parameter only allows you to move through a fixed (= limited) number of samples (and a rather small number at that, if I remember correctly). So if you want to "scroll" through a 2 minute sample, you're out of luck. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
2003-01-09 by Bacizone
Just a comment for this thread: I tried it within the Instrument editor, while playing a looped sequence: open the loop/sample editor (dunno its exact name, click on "E" icon) and set the sample start point manually while Logic plays notes.. you may hear the changes immediately.. not so elegant as it would be with a "Sample start with full length range" function, but very effective! BTW, E-MU EOS samplers also have the same behaviour when modulatin sample start...only a few samples. Sample Start modulation may be very useful for creating single cycle loops (any basic waverform, like e.g. a saw waveform with one or two full wavelenght) and modulation here produces interesting phasing effects and variations of a simple oscillator. > z o o l a b < ItaB www.zoolabmusic.com
>Thoughts from the mind of jonesnormand <norjones@...>, 09-01-2003: > > >Concerning long samples of many events. > > > >Can the sample start point be asigned to a midi controller to move > >it around on the fly ? > >In the EXS mkII there is indeed a Sample Start parameter in the >modulation matrix that does just that. However, people who've >actually tried this (as you could have :) have discovered that this >parameter only allows you to move through a fixed (= limited) number >of samples (and a rather small number at that, if I remember >correctly). So if you want to "scroll" through a 2 minute sample, >you're out of luck. > >-- >Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> >Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-01-09 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
My experience is that it plays about half of a sample, something I've been able compensate for by adding dead air of equal length or more to the end of the sample. Not useful for looped wave forms, but good for non-looping samples. -Jer
> Just a comment for this thread: > > I tried it within the Instrument editor, while playing a looped sequence: > open the loop/sample editor (dunno its exact name, click on "E" icon) and > set the sample start point manually while Logic plays notes.. you may hear > the changes immediately.. not so elegant as it would be with a "Sample > start with full length range" function, but very effective! > > BTW, E-MU EOS samplers also have the same behaviour when modulatin sample > start...only a few samples. Sample Start modulation may be very useful for > creating single cycle loops (any basic waverform, like e.g. a saw waveform > with one or two full wavelenght) and modulation here produces interesting > phasing effects and variations of a simple oscillator. > > >> z o o l a b < ItaB > www.zoolabmusic.com > > >> Thoughts from the mind of jonesnormand <norjones@...>, 09-01-2003: >> >>> Concerning long samples of many events. >>> >>> Can the sample start point be asigned to a midi controller to move >>> it around on the fly ? >> >> In the EXS mkII there is indeed a Sample Start parameter in the >> modulation matrix that does just that. However, people who've >> actually tried this (as you could have :) have discovered that this >> parameter only allows you to move through a fixed (= limited) number >> of samples (and a rather small number at that, if I remember >> correctly). So if you want to "scroll" through a 2 minute sample, >> you're out of luck. >> >> -- >> Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> >> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: >> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >> For a list of places to get free samples please see: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-01-09 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>
Hi Hendrik Jan, Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so many of the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not available'..? I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned these cc's, is this the case...? ....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? Thanx, O.
2003-01-09 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
To clarify, I should say "half a zone" and not "half a sample".
> My experience is that it plays about half of a sample, something I've been > able compensate for by adding dead air of equal length or more to the end of > the sample. Not useful for looped wave forms, but good for non-looping > samples. -Jer
2003-01-09 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra
Thoughts from the mind of darealbasoski <mail@...>, 09-01-2003: >Hi Hendrik Jan, > >Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so many of >the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not available'..? >I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned these >cc's, is this the case...? >....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? I know what you mean, but no, I have no clue whatsoever... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
2003-01-10 by john plumridge
>Thoughts from the mind of darealbasoski <mail@...>, 09-01-2003: > >>Hi Hendrik Jan, >> >>Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so many of >>the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not available'..? >>I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned these >>cc's, is this the case...? >>....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? > >I know what you mean, but no, I have no clue whatsoever... > I recall, maybe correctly, that a number of about 60 are pre assigned. I think ( 60% sure) I read that last in the exs24 update manual version 1.0 of june 2001. jp -- Tel: 01248 490 831
2003-01-11 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>
Ah, I must have overlooked then..Thanx for clarifying! O. --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, john plumridge <jplum@m...> wrote: > >Thoughts from the mind of darealbasoski <mail@o...>, 09-01-2003: > > > >>Hi Hendrik Jan, > >> > >>Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so many of > >>the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not available'..? > >>I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned these > >>cc's, is this the case...? > >>....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? > > > >I know what you mean, but no, I have no clue whatsoever... > > > I recall, maybe correctly, that a number of about 60 are pre > assigned. I think ( 60% sure) I read that last in the exs24 update
> manual version 1.0 of june 2001. > > jp > -- > > > Tel: 01248 490 831
2003-01-11 by midiface <pshackleton@apu.edu>
I found out the hard way something you folks may already know... In the Song Settings: MIDI Options, there is an option at the bottom of the window, that can disable the ability of controllers 65 and up to affect the EXS24 group selection. You can select version 4.x behavior, which reserves those controllers for plugin automation, or you can leave all controllers available. Could this be the cause of some controllers being "not available"? Phil Shackleton Azusa Pacific University --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote:
> Thoughts from the mind of darealbasoski <mail@o...>, 09-01-2003: > > >Hi Hendrik Jan, > > > >Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so many of > >the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not available'..? > >I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned these > >cc's, is this the case...? > >....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? > > I know what you mean, but no, I have no clue whatsoever... > > -- > Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> > Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
2003-01-11 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>
That's it! In earlier posts I emphasised the suck-factor of the Emagic manuals (with the exception of my 3.0 manual, which was big and chuncky and very thorough...) and this says enough again... Phil, thanx for clearing this up! O. --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "midiface <pshackleton@a...>" <pshackleton@a...> wrote: > I found out the hard way something you folks may already know... > > In the Song Settings: MIDI Options, there is an option at the bottom of the > window, that can disable the ability of controllers 65 and up to affect the > EXS24 group selection. You can select version 4.x behavior, which reserves > those controllers for plugin automation, or you can leave all controllers > available. Could this be the cause of some controllers being "not available"? > > Phil Shackleton > Azusa Pacific University > > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > > Thoughts from the mind of darealbasoski <mail@o...>, 09-01-2003: > > > > >Hi Hendrik Jan, > > > > > >Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so many of > > >the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not available'..? > > >I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned these
> > >cc's, is this the case...? > > >....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? > > > > I know what you mean, but no, I have no clue whatsoever... > > > > -- > > Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> > > Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com
2003-01-12 by midiface <pshackleton@apu.edu>
Happy to help! Now, a question: is there any simple way to copy an entire setup of audio instruments with the EXS24 samples and programs selected? I have lots of older Logic songs that I'd like to move my current EXS24 default setup into.... but there is still lots of work to do after a normal environment layer import.... when it works correctly at all. Thanks for any help on this! Phil Shackleton --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "darealbasoski <mail@o...>" <mail@o...> wrote:
> > That's it! > In earlier posts I emphasised the suck-factor of the Emagic > manuals (with the exception of my 3.0 manual, which was big > and chuncky and very thorough...) and this says enough again... > > Phil, thanx for clearing this up! > O. > > > > > > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "midiface > <pshackleton@a...>" <pshackleton@a...> wrote: > > I found out the hard way something you folks may already > know... > > > > In the Song Settings: MIDI Options, there is an option at the > bottom of the > > window, that can disable the ability of controllers 65 and up to > affect the > > EXS24 group selection. You can select version 4.x behavior, > which reserves > > those controllers for plugin automation, or you can leave all > controllers > > available. Could this be the cause of some controllers being > "not available"? > > > > Phil Shackleton > > Azusa Pacific University > > > > > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra > <h@k...> wrote: > > > Thoughts from the mind of darealbasoski <mail@o...>, > 09-01-2003: > > > > > > >Hi Hendrik Jan, > > > > > > > >Do you by any chance know why in the worlds name so > many of > > > >the controller #'s in the EXS's source list are 'not > available'..? > > > >I can imagine this being if Emagic had already assigned > these > > > >cc's, is this the case...? > > > >....Or am I the only one here experiencing this? > > > > > > I know what you mean, but no, I have no clue whatsoever... > > > > > > -- > > > Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> > > > Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com