EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Rougin Studio  (i.e. the extremely nice and talented  Stefan Petterson 
in Tranemo, Sweden) has moved his free samples site to:

http://rougin.limmared.com/exs.html


Great Rhodes, Fender bass, Clavinet and lots of other things.

Michael

Could anybody give me help.
I Imported all my AKAI sampling CD-Roms.
But it doesn�t work with Mixed mode CD�s.

Is there a way?

milo

At 03:30 PM 4/19/03 +0100, you wrote:

>Could anybody give me help.
>I Imported all my AKAI sampling CD-Roms.
>But it doesn´t work with Mixed mode CD´s.
>Is there a way?

You need to use the 1.3 Apple CD/DVD driver, the new ones see the audio and 
don't report the rest of the CD. Get it at 
www.chickensys.com/translator/download, put it into your Extensions folder, 
enable it in the Extensions Manager, disable the old one, restart, and it 
should see it. Don't use the 1.3 for long, the 1.4 ones are more stable and 
reliable, but of course not in this case.

(Is there a FAQ for EXS?)

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

On a fine day, 19-04-2003, Garth Hjelte wrote:

>At 03:30 PM 4/19/03 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>Could anybody give me help.
>>I Imported all my AKAI sampling CD-Roms.
>>But it doesn´t work with Mixed mode CD´s.
>>Is there a way?
>
>You need to use the 1.3 Apple CD/DVD driver, the new ones see the audio and
>don't report the rest of the CD. Get it at
>www.chickensys.com/translator/download, put it into your Extensions folder,
>enable it in the Extensions Manager, disable the old one, restart, and it
>should see it. Don't use the 1.3 for long, the 1.4 ones are more stable and
>reliable, but of course not in this case.
>
>(Is there a FAQ for EXS?)

There's a Logic FAQ (in development) at 
http://www.omega-art.com/logic/faq/.  Clearly EXS related stuff 
belongs there as well.  I've marked theabove msg to be included in 
the FAQ (which will be updated once I have some time to get at it). 
For the record: I suppose the above pertains to *akai* mixed mode 
CD's, right?

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Am 19.04.2003 16:22 Uhr schrieb "Garth Hjelte" unter <garth@...>:

> At 03:30 PM 4/19/03 +0100, you wrote:
> 
>> Could anybody give me help.
>> I Imported all my AKAI sampling CD-Roms.
>> But it doesn´t work with Mixed mode CD´s.
>> Is there a way?
> 
> You need to use the 1.3 Apple CD/DVD driver, the new ones see the audio and
> don't report the rest of the CD. Get it at
> www.chickensys.com/translator/download, put it into your Extensions folder,
> enable it in the Extensions Manager, disable the old one, restart, and it
> should see it. Don't use the 1.3 for long, the 1.4 ones are more stable and
> reliable, but of course not in this case.
> 
> (Is there a FAQ for EXS?)
> 
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
> 
> 
> 
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Thanks a lot !

milo

At 09:34 AM 4/20/2003 +0200, you wrote:

> >(Is there a FAQ for EXS?)
>
>There's a Logic FAQ (in development) at
><http://www.omega-art.com/logic/faq/.>http://www.omega-art.com/logic/faq/. 
>Clearly EXS related stuff
>belongs there as well.  I've marked theabove msg to be included in
>the FAQ (which will be updated once I have some time to get at it).
>For the record: I suppose the above pertains to *akai* mixed mode
>CD's, right?

As far as just the EXS goes, Akai is only relevant. But it applies to any 
mixed-mode CD paired with a proprietary format, specifically Akai, Roland, 
Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil, Yamaha, a few others, in regards to programs that 
can read them.

The specific problem is that the 1.4 CD/DVD Driver, once it sees the Audio 
portion (which physically comes first), it fails to report any other track 
to the OS, thus it is unavailable to be accessed programmatically. The use 
can see that (when not in EXS or other) by noticing that you don't get the 
eject/init dialog, even though it's an Akai CD, whereas normal Akai CD's 
get it.

The 1.3 drivers report other tracks to the OS, making them available to 
programs.

Since this is a Mac problem, it affects every Mac OS8/9 program that seeks 
to read Akai/proprietary CD's. I know of no way around it, except to writer 
something very unnecessarily complicated, like a very low-level driver that 
essentially replaces the CD/DVD Driver. And even maybe that won't work.

Thanks for the FAQ!

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On a fine day, 20-04-2003, Garth Hjelte wrote:

>As far as just the EXS goes, Akai is only relevant. But it applies to any
>mixed-mode CD paired with a proprietary format

Okay, thanks for your extensive reply.  It'll be saved for future FAQ-use...

>Thanks for the FAQ!

And thank you for the thumbs up.  BTW, it's not just my project -- 
there are a few more people involved...  Just FTR.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

AWESOME THREAD...THNX !!!!!  im so thankful u included this link...

www.chickensys.com/translator/download

> > At 03:30 PM 4/19/03 +0100, you wrote:
> > 
> >> Could anybody give me help.
> >> I Imported all my AKAI sampling CD-Roms.
> >> But it doesn´t work with Mixed mode CD´s.
> >> Is there a way?
> > 
> > You need to use the 1.3 Apple CD/DVD driver, the new ones see the 
audio and
> > don't report the rest of the CD. Get it at
> > www.chickensys.com/translator/download, put it into your 
Extensions folder,
> > enable it in the Extensions Manager, disable the old one, 
restart, and it
> > should see it. Don't use the 1.3 for long, the 1.4 ones are more 
stable and
> > reliable, but of course not in this case.
> > 
> > (Is there a FAQ for EXS?)
> > 
> > Garth Hjelte
> > Sampler User
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________________
> >                     EXS24 Users Group
> > - UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to exs-users-
unsubscribe@egroups.com
> > - For a list of places to get legal, free samples (feel free to 
add to
> > the list!) please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-
users/links/
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> > 
> > 
> Thanks a lot !
> 
> milo

Anybody have any recommendations for a good source of funk/hip-hop and rock 
rhythm guitar loops?  I've seen lots of variety discs out there, but I'd 
prefer libraries that are heavily or exclusively guitar. I'm sure the Hans 
Zimmer discs have great multisamples, but do they also include an ample 
supply of loops? Any suggestions appreciated.

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

Hi Sean,

Sean McCoy wrote,
> Anybody have any recommendations for a good source of 
> funk/hip-hop and rock rhythm guitar loops?

I wish that I could help you with recommendations but I can't (I usually try to 
get a live player in when I need such things).  I can give you info on the Hans 
ZImmer though and let you know that these do not contain an ample supply of the 
types of loops that you're looking for.  I own Hans Zimmer Guitars Vol. 1 and 
have heard Vol. 2.  Vol. 1 has what is called Chromazones which essentially are 
the same loops played in every key but they do not have a huge variety and I've 
never used them to tell you the truth.  You are correct in that these discs 
have *great* multisamples though.

Sampleheads have some stuff but I think that the loops now are a bit dated and 
probably won't give you what I think you're looking for.  Good luck with your 
search.

Fernstudio

At 02:20 PM 07/24/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Sean,
>
>Sean McCoy wrote,
> > Anybody have any recommendations for a good source of
> > funk/hip-hop and rock rhythm guitar loops?
>
>I wish that I could help you with recommendations but I can't


Wow!  Based on your response and the lack of any others, it would seem 
there is a gaping hole in the market here. Live guitars are obviously the 
best, but unless you're in a metropolitan area and have some dough, it's 
not usually an option. Decent lead players are plentiful, but seriously 
good groovemeisters are very hard to come by. All you good rhythm 
guitarists out there, get working on those discs 'cause there's gold in 
them thar loops!

Is anybody having any problems with the use of external firewire drives for 
disk streaming? My internal drives are rapidly filling with converted 
sample libraries, and firewire is the obvious way to go if it can handle 
it. I'm using a G4 450MP on Mac OS 9.2.2 (for another six months or so, 
anyway). Thanks for any recommendations.

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

> Is anybody having any problems with the use of external firewire drives for
> disk streaming? My internal drives are rapidly filling with converted
> sample libraries, and firewire is the obvious way to go if it can handle
> it. I'm using a G4 450MP on Mac OS 9.2.2 (for another six months or so,
> anyway). Thanks for any recommendations.
> 
> Sean McCoy
> Oregon Sound Recording

no problem at all.
all my audio/samples are sitting on external drives.

i recommed the aluminum la cie d2 drives.
nice enclosure, no fan, no troubble so far. (dono which drive actually sits
inside, but i think they are changing anyways)

uswitalski@... wrote:

> i recommed the aluminum la cie d2 drives.
> nice enclosure, no fan, no troubble so far. 

Has anyone noticed that these drives power up automatically when you 
boot your copmputer (in OS 9)? It will power up even if you left it 
powered down before you last shut down. I find this very strange 
behaviour, which apperntly is now considered normal (?) It seems t he 
only way to not have it power on when booting your Mac is to physically 
unplug either the firewire or AC cable. I, for one, don't like this 
behaviour. Otherwise they are great, reaaallly quiet drives.


-- 
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com