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>From: Hari Floura <scorpio65@...>
>Reply-To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp and CAB comparison continued.....
>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Thanks Glenjamin! I'm bidding on a Peavy 60/60 on ebay at the moment, if I 
>loose that then I'll go hunting for the ADA based on your recommendation. 
>Also, I am amazed at the price of the BG412F, might be an idea for me to 
>buy this and then stick my celestions into that!!
>
>Funnty you should mention the global eq as I have to make a confession to 
>make (forgive me 2101 gods for I have sinned!).  I finally really sat down 
>and read the manual (goes totally against the grain!) last night and 
>discovered the global eq setting buried on page 84 or thereabouts (Why is 
>this not on the front page in big bold letters!?!)! Having put in some of 
>the new valves I ordered and tweaked this I am now in sonic nirvana (had a 
>silly grin on my face all day!)!! I am getting sounds out the 2101 I did'nt 
>know I could get! For all you guys and gals new to the 2101 (or you my 
>fellow sinners, you know who you are!) the global eq setting is critical 
>for getting a great sound out of the 2101, go play with it now!! So, having 
>achieved sonic nirvana and while still in my weaked state from all that 
>manual reading, I finally caved and ordered a PPC from Dieter!
>
>Hari
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Glenjamin <rhythmposse@...>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 2:22:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp and CAB comparison continued.....
>
>Hey Hari,
>
>I never tried the valvestate. I did compare the Marshall 9200 to the 
>ADAB200S and the ADA had a truly uncolored mix with fantastic harmonics.The 
>9200's harmonics sounded brittle and some what harsh. The lovley Marshalls 
>scoop can be achieved with the ADA if you use the master EQ on the 2101.
>  If your a die hard tube fan get a shock mount rack. The main reason I 
>prefer the ADAB200S is it is unbreakable, 16 LBS,  self adjusting Ohms, 
>great tone and around $80 used. I play out 2-4 times a month and my back 
>knows the difference. NOTE: The first ADAB200S I got for $150 and the 
>second for $80. eBay vs. Craigs list???
>
>As for speaker cabs, I am down to four cabs.  For band one I leave my 1960A 
>in the truck. For band B I leave a (dare I say it) Behringer BG412F in 
>there truck. Believe it or not for $200 the NEW BG412F had 4 Jensen 100W 
>speakers and a thick multiply wood construction and stereo/mono switch. The 
>wheels suck big time. But for something to smash up on the road that sounds 
>better than my 1960A it was a deal. The BG412F cab has a easy mid section 
>to give it a smooth scooped tone. It moves air very well like the vintage 
>30's. The most popular 412 would be the greenback setup$$$
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Hari Floura <scorpio65@yahoo. com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 1:04:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>So if I have you right, the ADA has all the plus points of the Marshall 
>(other then the scoop) and none of the negatives (?).  Still, have to admit 
>weight is not an issue for me as my rig never moves from the room it 
>occupies (I just a boy with his toys! ).  Did you ever have a chance to 
>compare it with a Marshall valvestate amp? Also what about speakers cabs? I 
>am planning on building a 4x12 stereo cab to replace the 1x12's I am using 
>presently. I picked up 2 more celestions and now just need to find some 
>time to spend in the wood shop (after I finish the home improvement project 
>I promised to the better half !)
>
>Hari
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Glenjamin <rhythmposse@ yahoo.com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 11:44:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>Mullards are keepers! I did numerous switches with JJ, Fender/Sovtek, Mesa, 
>Marshall, Groove ax7, Phillips and RFT.  The RFT's were by far the best in 
>offering a NON-INSECT attracting overtone with killer gain. Almost fizzless 
>with  SUPER low microphonics. Another anti feedback device. :-)
>
>The power amp issue with bass etc.  Let me state I started with a Mosvalve. 
>Not to bad. Next the Carvin T100 tube. A little better but it went in the 
>shop to often and only 50 watts a side in stereo I could not keep up with 
>the drummer from hell who used tree trunks as sticks. Next came the 
>Marshall 9100. Still 50 a side but added the cool SCOOP switch for superior 
>bottom end. In the shop 2 times in 2 years. Next the Marshall 9200. Now at 
>100Watts per side and it went in the shop for problems two times same right 
>channel. One was at a gig I had to run mono from the surviving side.  While 
>it was in the shop I picked up a used 100 watts per side ADAB200S off eBay 
>for $80 and it was 16 LBS compaired to the 80LBS plus the Marshall was. It 
>had better volume, harmonics and again was ONLY 16 LBS. When I picked up my 
>rack with one hand, the Marshall went up on eBay. In defence of the 
>Marshall 9200, if you like Doom metal you cant beat the scoop switch.  Oh 
>did I
>  mention the ADA has no heat!
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Hari Floura <scorpio65@yahoo. com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 9:02:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>Bob - The Marshall had Mullard tubes in it, I just got various new tubes 
>today and once I have had a chance to play with them I'll post my findings!
>
>Jorma - I have a Marshall Valvestate 8080 at the moment going into 2 1x12 
>cabs with celestions in them. I'm trying to get a 50/50 peavy on e-bay if I 
>can, your comments have further convinced me that a valve power amp is the 
>way to go!
>
>Hari
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: J spazi <jspazi@yahoo. com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 7:59:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>Ill chime in since I love tubes. Ive used almost every readily available 
>tube in my amps and have settled on the TAD ( 9th Gen Chinese) for the 
>2101. Great gain, not too fizzy ( i think the fiz is intrinsic to the unit 
>) with the TAD's you can dial most of it out with the EQ.
>
>For my "B" Rig,I use a Mesa Boogie 50/50 with my 2101 and its a killer with 
>a v30 loaded stereo cab. The Diff between Solid State and Tube power amps 
>regarding bass response is unbelievable and in favor of the tube power. If 
>you get a chance try a tube power amp. 6l6'S or EL34's
>-Jorma
>
>
>Bob Snelgrove <bob@mysystem. com> wrote:
>What tubes were in the Marshall?
>
>
>bob
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Hari Floura
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:55 AM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>Just to add my two cents! I recently considered supplementing/ replacing 
>the pre-amp stage of my 2101 with a ADA MP1 Classic ( since I was not 
>entirely happy with the tone. That is I could not get some of the sounds I 
>get out of my Marshall 9001 pre-amp (non midi) from the 2101. Luckily 
>before I committed to the ADA, I figured it was worth playing around with 
>the valve tubes, so I replaced the ones in the 2101 (Groove tubes matched 
>pair) with the ones in the Marshall and (BINGO!) there was the tone I was 
>after! Since then I have been replicating the sounds I get from the 
>Marshall on the 2101 with great success. The only one I am having trouble 
>with is one where I have used the 9001 eq stage to boost the bottom end for 
>a really heavily distorted crunch metal rhythm, so far I have not managed 
>to get that really dark bottom, end fuzzy bass out of the 2101 (Sounds a 
>bit to bright and clean!).  Still I'm waiting for a selection of new tubes 
>I ordered to
>  arrive so I can play around some more and I am reasonably confident I 
>will get what I need out of the 2101 without having to add to my rig! At 
>that stage Marshall 9001 will end up on e-bay! So the moral of the story 
>is, it's there if you have the patience to work with the 2101!
>
>BTW has anybody any info on the 'Blue Dream Mods' that Dieter mentions on 
>his website?
>
>Hari
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Glenjamin <rhythmposse@ yahoo.com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 11:19:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>Hey Jim,
>I have no feedback at painful volumes. If  I loosen up the gate I can have 
>controlled feedback. Note I use a EMG81.  Try setting your gate at ATTACK 
>0, RELEASE 0, ATTENUATION 66, DELAY TIME 0.  Play with the ATTENUATION for 
>your pickups to work best.
>
>Now for Gary,
>You added a external15band DOD EQ?  I must ask why you didn't add a 15 band 
>EQ to your algorithm?
>
>Hey Bob,
>My bass player let me jam through a VooDoo valve. It had that Paul Gilbert 
>high end twag to it.  I'm looking more for a Dann Huff type lead tone and 
>Tora Tora (Walkin Shoes) insane crunch rhythm. I must say I still don't 
>know how Nuno got the ADA MP1 and a Boss pedal to get that Pornograffitti 
>tone???  I bought all that shit , Bill Lawrance XL pickup, pedal, ADA and 
>NO LUCK. I'm sure some one will say its Nuno's hands but I beg to differ. 
>Listen to Three Sides to every Story when he switched to Soldano amps. I 
>didn't like the tone near as much. I can get damn close on the 2101.  
>That's way the 2101 still rules in my book.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: jim morrison <spaceace60@yahoo. com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:48:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] amp comparison continued... ..
>
>
>i had a triaxis and a boogie 2/90? and i thought it sucked! (sorry boogie 
>diehards)and im a major boogie fan(especially the rectifiers!) best combo 
>i've tried so far is a  2101 and a marshall 9200 tried 2101 with carvin 
>t100 and wasn't as good but usable lol!  only major complaint i have on 
>2101 is uncontroled feedback(unless your 300ft away from amp) on distortion 
>presets noise gate has to be set to high to eliminate problem then it 
>doesn't allow me to have enough sustain or cuts notes/chords off to soon!
>
>Glenjamin <rhythmposse@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>While we are bashing gear.......         I just picked up a Marshall JMP-1 
>and a Vox Valvetronix 100 watt head to goof with in the studio. The vox was 
>beyond  loud and had very usable sounds strikingly close to what amps it 
>simulates. Plus it has a power attinuator to get that cranked sound at 
>lower volumes. The VOX was $310 used and kicked the JMP's butt!  The JMP-1 
>did have one creamy lead tone where the tube distortion was smooth and 
>shredable.  How ever when I plugged back into the 2101 I put the JMP-1 on 
>eBay.  Next I need to try the Piranha and Triaxis. Nothing I prefer better 
>than the 2101 so far.....  Anyone have the new 1101? I would imagine Harmon 
>would go cookie cutter over tone any day $$$.
>
>Amps I have tried so far.....
>
>Bogner Excstasy                                Useful  (not worth $3900)
>Peavey Rockmaster                           Metal!!!
>Hughes & Kettner                              JCM800 again
>Boogie Studio, Rectofier                    Good one trick pony
>Marshall JCM800 and JMP-1           Useful
>Randall RG75                                    Suprising  depth
>ADA MP-1                                       Useful
>Sansamp GT2                                    Sterile
>Digitech RP 6,7,12,20 and 2101's      2101 tops my list
>Boss GT8                                           good all in one runner 
>up
>Fender Twin and Princton                   classic clean
>VOX AD100VTH                             All your favorite amps strikingly 
>simulated.
>VHT Pittbull                                       Hot rodded JCM with 
>better EQ
>J-Station                                             Shrill but useful
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: belphedeus <belphedeus@yahoo. com>
>To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:00:33 AM
>Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: 2101 and 2112 in comparison
>
>
>LOL!!What i meant was it delivers.... . :)
>
>--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Bob Snelgrove" <bob@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bites means good? :)
> >
> > Used to mean bad :)
> >
> >
> > bob
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: belphedeus
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:37 AM
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: 2101 and 2112 in comparison
> >
> >
> > Well i have never tried the other RP models but RP 12 really
> > bites....the analog dist is amazing.Easy to program if you ever
> > meddle with the 2101.The only downside is that the algorithms are
> > fixed.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Bob Snelgrove" <bob@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is the RP-12 the best of the RP's? I'd like to have a good all
>in
> > one floor pedal.
> > >
> > >
> > > bob
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: dunkin_donut3
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:04 PM
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: 2101 and 2112 in comparison
> > >
> > >
> > > I too own a RP12. What a fantastic pedal. I also own 4 2101's.
>I
> > > have no reason to change. Yes, a few of the effects aren't as
> > good as
> > > others... but with the RP12 and a 2101 in my arsenal I'm more
> > than
> > > happy.
> > >
> >
>
>
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