I have two units, one with NOS RCA 7025 USA and another with stock GT 12AX>'s. The RCA unit is used with vintage black face Fender amps and sound's great. The unit with GT's has a little more edge when driven. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Spagork" <spagork@...> wrote: > > JJ's from front to back. 2 12AX7 JJ's in the 2101 and 8 EL84 JJ's in a > Peavey Classic 50/50 Power Amp. The difference between decent brands of > tubes in 2101 is marginal at best. Some switch a 12ax7 for a 12at7 but I > have never tried or heard great results from doing so. > > > > What else is in you signal-chain? > > > > A tube power amp helps me out with the 2101's lack luster clean sound. And I > added a BBE 462 Sonic Maximizer after the 2101 to remove that sterile > flatness of the 2101's clean tone. It punches up any style of tone you put > through it. > > > > The speakers and the design of the cab is a big part of your sound too. > Size, Wattage, Open Back or Closed Back Cabs all affect your tone. For that > old classic clean tone you kind of have to look at how they did it back in > the "Old Days". A low wattage 12" open-back rig with not too much head-room, > will give you just enough break-up before it distorts to put life into your > tone. The power amp section has a lot to do with getting that rich tone, > hence my Peavey 50/50 Classic power amp in the rig. I can mess with the > Presence and Resonance of the power section with a couple of knobs to change > the character of this Peavey. I can go from Razor-Blade Bite to a more Mushy > feel with this power amp. > > > > I think when the clean signal gets processed in the 2101 it loses that > juicy, glassy, Fender/Vox tone that I like to hear in a clean guitar sound. > I know you can bypass the digital section of the 2101 but something in the > analog section is not giving it any sizzle. I also know that the pre-amp > tubes in the 2101 aren't pushed as hard as in a classic amp design. I think > the 2101 punts it 12ax7s with 50 Volts whereas the old designs bash them as > hard as 200 Volts or more. Don't quote me on the actual Voltages but the > juicy amps run way hotter. I've never gone to the 2101 for that Killer Tone. > It's hard to get around the fact that a simple tube rig, "No Digital", is > the only thing that will do it for me. That being said, the 2101has some > massive, expansive cleans with some patches. But that's more attributed to > the great effects one can layer onto that plain slice of toast that the 2101 > serves up for a clean tone. > > > > I haven't fired up my 2101 lately to actually give an educated opinion on > its' sound compared to what I play now. I know I won't get rid of it though. > Whenever I go back to visit the 2101, it still puts a silly grin on my face. > Maybe it's the visions of Big Hair, Tight Jeans, and High-Tops I see when I > look at the backs of my eye-lids. > > > > Sorry, no settings to give you of the top of my head but EQ the hell outah > her and try some post processing. > > > > Thanks for making me revisit an old friend. > > _____ > > From: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Glenn Warner 3rd > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:09 PM > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [gsp-2101] Tube Poll > > > > > > I have a question for all users in the group. What kind of tubes are you > using and what style of music? > > Currently, I am using JJ's from Bob at Eurotubes. They sound pretty good. I > play rock/metal, Dream Theater being my favorite group. I'm not really super > happy with my clean tones my unit produces. The distortions are good, any > one else have some good clean and good solid saturated tones/settings they > wish to share? Thanks everyone... > > Glenn > > _____ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. > <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/%0d%0ahttp:/clk.atdmt.com/G > BL/go/177141664/direct/01/%0d%0a> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09 > 07:43:00 >
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Re: Tube Poll
2009-12-09 by Stratburst