>
> JJ's from front to back. 2 12AX7 JJ's in the 2101 and 8 EL84 JJ's in a
> Peavey Classic 50/50 Power Amp. The difference between decent brands of
> tubes in 2101 is marginal at best. Some switch a 12ax7 for a 12at7 but I
> have never tried or heard great results from doing so.
>
>
>
> What else is in you signal-chain?
>
>
>
> A tube power amp helps me out with the 2101's lack luster clean sound. And I
> added a BBE 462 Sonic Maximizer after the 2101 to remove that sterile
> flatness of the 2101's clean tone. It punches up any style of tone you put
> through it.
>
>
>
> The speakers and the design of the cab is a big part of your sound too.
> Size, Wattage, Open Back or Closed Back Cabs all affect your tone. For that
> old classic clean tone you kind of have to look at how they did it back in
> the "Old Days". A low wattage 12" open-back rig with not too much head-room,
> will give you just enough break-up before it distorts to put life into your
> tone. The power amp section has a lot to do with getting that rich tone,
> hence my Peavey 50/50 Classic power amp in the rig. I can mess with the
> Presence and Resonance of the power section with a couple of knobs to change
> the character of this Peavey. I can go from Razor-Blade Bite to a more Mushy
> feel with this power amp.
>
>
>
> I think when the clean signal gets processed in the 2101 it loses that
> juicy, glassy, Fender/Vox tone that I like to hear in a clean guitar sound.
> I know you can bypass the digital section of the 2101 but something in the
> analog section is not giving it any sizzle. I also know that the pre-amp
> tubes in the 2101 aren't pushed as hard as in a classic amp design. I think
> the 2101 punts it 12ax7s with 50 Volts whereas the old designs bash them as
> hard as 200 Volts or more. Don't quote me on the actual Voltages but the
> juicy amps run way hotter. I've never gone to the 2101 for that Killer Tone.
> It's hard to get around the fact that a simple tube rig, "No Digital", is
> the only thing that will do it for me. That being said, the 2101has some
> massive, expansive cleans with some patches. But that's more attributed to
> the great effects one can layer onto that plain slice of toast that the 2101
> serves up for a clean tone.
>
>
>
> I haven't fired up my 2101 lately to actually give an educated opinion on
> its' sound compared to what I play now. I know I won't get rid of it though.
> Whenever I go back to visit the 2101, it still puts a silly grin on my face.
> Maybe it's the visions of Big Hair, Tight Jeans, and High-Tops I see when I
> look at the backs of my eye-lids.
>
>
>
> Sorry, no settings to give you of the top of my head but EQ the hell outah
> her and try some post processing.
>
>
>
> Thanks for making me revisit an old friend.
>
> _____
>
> From: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Glenn Warner 3rd
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:09 PM
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Tube Poll
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a question for all users in the group. What kind of tubes are you
> using and what style of music?
>
> Currently, I am using JJ's from Bob at Eurotubes. They sound pretty good. I
> play rock/metal, Dream Theater being my favorite group. I'm not really super
> happy with my clean tones my unit produces. The distortions are good, any
> one else have some good clean and good solid saturated tones/settings they
> wish to share? Thanks everyone...
>
> Glenn
>
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