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Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller

2010-06-04 by Graham Pearson

Or, if you want to control volume between the analog and digital sections, you can put a volume pedal in the FX Loop.  Using this configuration, the appropriate setting for the FX Loop return is "No Sum", I believe.
GP

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: M M 
  To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:13 PM
  Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller


    
  Why not put a volume pedal before the 2101.


   
   "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



   



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  To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
  From: dewdude2112@...
  Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:52:03 -0700
  Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller

    
        Okay...thatbirngs on two problems...first off is I do want my CC-controlled master volume to be pre-fx.


        2nd....if this is all about the controller...why does the front panel control (using actual unit buttons) not allow the program to go to absolute zero? 

        I think this could be a problem with this program or unit. I've found this problem though the use of the CC, but it works fine in some other programs. 



        --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Marko Menart <okramtranem@...> wrote:


          From: Marko Menart <okramtranem@...>
          Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller
          To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 6:51 PM


            
          I think I know what is your problem.

          With the "master volume" on the GSP (at the end of analog section, before FX loop) you fine tune the level of patches (lead patches usually a little louder than rhythm ones).

          If you want to have a "real" volume controll you should link output levels of one of the mixers (eg. 4x12) in the digital section (after FX loop). But as you will see the problem is that when you change patch it will have the level as it was stored regardles of CC pedal position.


          Best regards, Marko






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          From: M M <strategy400@ hotmail.com>
          To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
          Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 8:59:51 PM
          Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller

            
          signal cabling.


           
           "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



           


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          To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
          From: dewdude2112@ yahoo.com
          Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:46:34 -0700
          Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller

            
                Are you talking about the midi cable? 5 or 7 pin? I'm not sure I'll have to look. 

                The part that concerns me is that even from the front panel controls, I can't get that program to go to zero. I'll just have to spend some more time with it....hope it's not some full reset issue. 
                Thanks,

                Steve
                --- On Wed, 6/2/10, M M <strategy400@ hotmail.com> wrote:


                  From: M M <strategy400@ hotmail.com>
                  Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller
                  To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
                  Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:09 AM


                    
                  What kind of cabling connections do you have?


                   
                   "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."

                   

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                  To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
                  From: dewdude2112@ yahoo.com
                  Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 17:34:45 -0700
                  Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller

                    
                        Yes...GP...I have tried that parameter. I have to tell ya'll...I've been using preamps for 25 years. Yes...the 2101 is a bit different with it's multiple mixer options, but from The Chain Reaction I bought new in 1986-7, to the GSP-21 Pro, to the RP-2000  to Rocktron Voodu Valve to Vox Tonelab SE, and several others....I' ve ALWAYS found a "master volume". And I DEPEND on it with my life! 

                        Now...after exploring on my own a bit, I have:
                        1) Selected a program (Distortion + delay)
                        2) Assigned the CC to Post EQ Master Volume distortion "on". 
                        3) Calibrated the Pedal
                        4) Set min/max

                        And under this program...I still have volume in the minimal setting. With the above operations, I have reduced it...but it's still there...still audible as if on "1/2" or "1" on a typical guitar amp master volume. I would conclude that there is some sort of leakage or fault in the pedal or midi. . But under a different program...no fx....CC works perfectly... dead quiet to full volume. 

                        Now I can only conclude that with effects, the signal is somehow being routed away from this "Master Volume" parameter. As you can see...it's very frustrating. I appreciate the "how to link a parameter to cc" message...but I am FAR beyond that. The volume link to CC is working..... and the best I can see at this point is it is working without effects...and not working so well with effects. 

                        I should add...that even with the 2101 front control panel...the master volume does not make the volume go to dead quiet. Faulty 2101? 

                        I will continue to beat this issue over the head.....but I need some REAL help here! There has to be something I am missing. 

                        Signed,
                        Desperately seeking zero volume with FX. 




                        --- On Tue, 6/1/10, Graham Pearson <me@grahampearson. com> wrote:


                          From: Graham Pearson <me@grahampearson. com>
                          Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller
                          To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
                          Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:11 PM


                            
                           

                          Have you tried using the Volume at the end of the analog section?  I believe it's right after the analog EQ.  The advantage of using this Volume control is that it allows any digital effects such as reverb or echo to trail away even though you've reduced the volume of the signal being sent from the analog section to the digital section.

                            ----- Original Message ----- 
                            From: Steve krall 
                            To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com 
                            Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:05 AM
                            Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller
                             
                                Hey thanks! I have the manual.....my problem is I can't find "MASTER VOLUME" to assign the pedal to. Some patches have a TON of left/right mixes...but there's no clear cut "mater Volume parameter. 

                                I did find one patch that has a complete volume control...but it's post effects. I'll try to find what parameter they assigned...that will work for non-FX patches. 

                                Steve

                                --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Graham Pearson <me@grahampearson. com> wrote:




                                  








                                 












                                  

                                 

                                 
                                 

                       

               




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