"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@...
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
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> Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals other than your big toe on the pedal.
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> You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
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> A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
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> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
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>; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
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> GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
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> The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy
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> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
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> > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
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> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
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> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
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> > Would this work?
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> > http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en
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> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
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>; > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
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> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
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> > > >
> > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
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> > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
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> > > >; If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
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> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
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> > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
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> >; > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
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> > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > >
> > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
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> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
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> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
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> > > >; > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
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> > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
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--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
>
>
> Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals other than your big toe on the pedal.
>;
>
>
> You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
>
>
>
> A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
>
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
>
>
>
> GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
>
> The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >;
> >
> >
> >
> > Would this work?
> >
> > http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > >
>; > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> >; >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> >; > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >; If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >; > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > >
> > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
>; > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > >; > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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