Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
2010-07-13 by Steven Vachon
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2010-07-13 by Steven Vachon
Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself. Thanks
2010-07-14 by M M
2010-07-14 by Steven Vachon
I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head. Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself. > > Thanks > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >
2010-07-14 by Hari Floura
What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head. Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal >to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, >I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck >investigating this myself. > > Thanks > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your >inbox. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >2 >
2010-07-14 by M M
I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
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> Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
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2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon
Thank you, now I know the terminology for what I need. As for the Behringer FCB 1010, it won't fit on my pedal board! Heheh. So, I'm stuck with the Control One --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@...> wrote:
> > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend > or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several > devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 > which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly > written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read > through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual > kinda goes over my head. > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal > >to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, > >I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > >investigating this myself. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > >inbox. > >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > >2 > > >
2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon
Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results. > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: scorpio65@... > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head. > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 >
2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon
Would this work? http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
> > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: scorpio65@ > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@...m > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > >
2010-07-16 by M M
2010-07-16 by Hari Floura
From the limited information on the website it seems this device is really intended to network their LeHle SGoS products. As far as I am aware the Behringer FCB 1010 is the only commercial low cost solution that offers effects or amp switching. If you are handy with a soldering iron and know your way around a schematic diagram you can also try this kit : http://www.jimkim.de/html/guitar01_01.htm. Hope this helps. ________________________________
From: M M <strategy400@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 12:21:55 AM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with. "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: prometh@gmail. com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Would this work? http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote: > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? >All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a >result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and >out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some >minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger >pedal with decent results. > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: scorpio65@ > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck >investigating this myself. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your >inbox. > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with >Hotmail. > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > ________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy.
2010-07-16 by M M
Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what ;interfaces you are working with.
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: prometh@gmail. com
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon
GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > Would this work? > > http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 >
2010-07-16 by goddardfil@gmail.com
I myself use WOBO MIDI Looper4 and control all of my gear from Control One via GSP2101. There is also single MIDI Looper available: www.woboge.com/midi.html Cheers, Filip www.facebook.com/twelvemoonsband www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial Sent from iPhone
2010-07-16 by M M
2010-07-17 by Steven Vachon
The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong? > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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2010-07-17 by M M
2010-07-17 by Hari Floura
Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath and count to 10 , and think nice thoughts Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM is trying to say . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them into or out of your fx chain. As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put them in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the right direction there if you need it. Hope that helps clarify things Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the power amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. ________________________________
From: M M <strategy400@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Commencing facepalm.. "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: prometh@gmail. com Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was >wrong? > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from >your inbox. > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with >Hotmail. > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with >Hotmail. > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with >Hotmail. > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > ________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy.
2010-07-20 by Steven Vachon
2010-07-21 by goddardfil@gmail.com
\ufffdThanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath and
> count to 10 , and think nice thoughts
>
> Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
> is trying to say . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
> pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
> will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
> into or out of your fx chain.
>
>
> As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put them
> in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
> sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
> right direction there if you need it.
>
> Hope that helps clarify things
>
> Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the power
> amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
> musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: M M strategy400@...
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
> Commencing facepalm..
>
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> From: prometh@gmail. com
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
> The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability
> to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
> >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals
> >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi
> >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> >
> >
> >
> > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
> >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> >
> > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
> >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer
> >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would this work?
> > >
> > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and
> >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching
> >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can
> >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
> >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single
> >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians
> >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several
> >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly
> >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've
> >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
> >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > >
> > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> >wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive
> >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control
> >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex
> >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> >investigating this myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from
> >your inbox.
> > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326:
> >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with
> >Hotmail.
> > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with
> >Hotmail.
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> >Hotmail.
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail.
> Get busy.
>
2010-07-22 by Steven Vachon
Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but instead button numbers. If so, that's great news! Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really worth the extra dough? Thanks --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." <goddardfil@...> wrote:
> > Hi again. > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127 > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory. > > Cheers, > Filip > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial > > Steven Vachon pisze: > > > > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the > > same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote: > > > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, > > deep breath and > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, > > is what MM > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to > > bring your > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch > > them on and > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. > > That is they > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can > > bring them > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could > > either put them > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via > > the midi > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried > > that. I am > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point > > you in the > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop > > for the power > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more > > accomplished > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by > > this set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: M M strategy400@ > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > >  > > > Commencing facepalm.. > > >  > > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > >  > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need > > the ability > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. > > Besides, I'm > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal > > and acoustic > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on > > those pedals > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects > > loop(s)(er), not a midi > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. > > You can use > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's > > available, > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals > > to a rack > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so > > the Behringer > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to > > switch? It's > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) > > MIDI > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than > > what I need, and > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's > > amp switching > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and > > out so I can > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my > > feet while > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can > > do a single > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is > > always on in > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for > > that, with > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do > > this with a > > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc > > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search > > on Musicians > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can > > control several > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one > > pedal, you may > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB > > 1010 which > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be > > able to set > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating > > because of poorly > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even > > exists. I've > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself > > yet, so the > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess > > that was > > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows > > your overdrive > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button > > on the Control > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in > > MIDI-Thru to > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to > > understand the sysex > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had > > much luck > > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. > > Get more from > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > ocid=PID28326: > > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > > accounts with > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > tile=multiaccoun > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > > accounts with > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple > > calendars with > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend > > > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts > > with Hotmail. > > > Get busy. > > > > > >
2010-07-22 by M M
2010-07-22 by Filip Wyrwa
Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
From: prometh@...
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!
Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really worth the extra dough?
Thanks
--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." wrote:
>
> Hi again.
>
> Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
>
> Cheers,
> Filip
>
> www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
>
> Steven Vachon pisze:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> >; same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> >
> >
> > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> >
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > deep breath and
> > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > >
> > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > is what MM
> > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > bring your
> > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > them on and
> > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > That is they
> > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > bring them
>; > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > either put them
> > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > the midi
> > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > that. I am
> > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > you in the
> > > right direction there if you need it.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > >
> > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > for the power
> > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > accomplished
> > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > this set up.
> > >
> > >;
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > Â
> > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > the ability
> > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > Besides, I'm
> > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >; > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > and acoustic
> > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > those pedals
> > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > You can use
> > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > >;
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > >
> > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > available,
> > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > to a rack
> > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > the Behringer
> > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > switch? It's
> > >; >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > >; > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; > Would this work?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > country=us&lang=en
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > > >;
> > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > MIDI
> > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > what I need, and
> > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > amp switching
> > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > out so I can
> > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > feet while
> > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > do a single
> > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > always on in
> > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > that, with
> >; > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > this with a
> > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
>; > on Musicians
> > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > control several
> > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > pedal, you may
> > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > 1010 which
> > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > able to set
> > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > because of poorly
> > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >; > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > exists. I've
> > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > yet, so the
> > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > that was
> > > >wrong?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > your overdrive
> > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > on the Control
> > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > MIDI-Thru to
> > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > understand the sysex
> > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > much luck
> > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> > _________ _
> > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy.
> > Get more from
> > > >your inbox.
> > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy?
> > ocid=PID28326:
> > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail
> > accounts with
> > > >Hotmail.
> > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy?
> > tile=multiaccoun
> > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail
> > accounts with
>; > > >Hotmail.
> > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun
> > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple
> > calendars with
> > > >Hotmail.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts
> > with Hotmail.
> > > Get busy.
> > >
> >
>
2010-07-22 by Hari Floura
Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote: > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath >and > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them > into or out of your fx chain. > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put >them > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the > right direction there if you need it. > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the >power > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: M M strategy400@ ... > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Commencing facepalm.. >  >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > >  > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > From: prometh@gmail. com > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the >ability > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those >pedals > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a >midi > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the >Behringer > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, >and > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp >switching > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I >can > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a >single > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on >Musicians > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control >several > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of >poorly > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. >I've > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your >overdrive > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the >Control > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the >sysex > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from > > >your inbox. > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > > >Hotmail. > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > >Hotmail. > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > >Hotmail. > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with >Hotmail. > > Get busy. >
2010-07-22 by Steven Vachon
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision. Plus, digital is "simulation" :P --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@...> wrote:
> > Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack > (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and > being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of > the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now > struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge > emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will > need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't > needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand > GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to > disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic > simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power > amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the > FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital > effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing > detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out > to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). > However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm > simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote: > > > > Now, now, MM someàof usàjust take a little longer to get there, deep breath > >and > > > > count to 10à, and think nice thoughtsà> > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM > > > is trying to say à. This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put > >them > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > Hope that helpsààclarify things > > > > Out of pure interest,àcan you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the > >power > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: M M strategy400@ ... > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > à> > Commencing facepalm.. > > à> > à"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > à> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > à> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the > >ability > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those > >pedals > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a > >midi > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the > >Behringer > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, > >and > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp > >switching > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I > >can > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a > >single > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on > >Musicians > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control > >several > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of > >poorly > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. > >I've > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your > >overdrive > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the > >Control > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the > >sysex > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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2010-07-22 by Steven Vachon
Extremely easy operation. With the MS-4 up to four conventional switch functions (like Reverb On/Off, Channel Select, Bypass, etc.
There are still a lot of units (Amplifiers, footpedals...) which are not able to be switched by Midi.
2010-07-22 by goddardfil@gmail.com
Hi again, The outputs of Nobels MS4 are simple latching sockets that can be connected to amp's footswitch sockets and replace standard amp's footswitch. Therefore you can control non-midi amp via MIDI commands. You can also connect and control some devices that has 1/4" jack socket that can be used to control the unit but I've never seen guitar effect with bypass remote socket. The list: 'Reverb On/Off, Channel Select, Bypass refers to amp's functions - bypass means a bypass of amp's FX loop. The unit to be a 'bypassing' looper has to have input, output and send +return for every loop/connected device that you need to control individually. Nobels has just 4 1/4" jack sockets activated via MIDI. All the best, Filip Wyrwa www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial Sent from iPhone Dnia 22 Jul 2010 o godz. 18:05 "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> napisał(a):
> Hmm, well the website says this: > > Extremely easy operation. With the MS-4 up to four conventional > switch functions (like Reverb On/Off, Channel Select, Bypass, etc. > > and the manual mentions this: > > There are still a lot of units (Amplifiers, footpedals...) which are > not able to be switched by Midi. > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa <goddardfil@...> wrote: > > > > Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's > channels or > > remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. > You cannot > > connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both > bypassing effects > > and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs > and > > outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects. > > > > In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program > number - > > program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need > different PC > > messages in a single bank then you would have to put different > programs into > > single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can > set it to > > react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - > 10-19, etc. > > > > Cheers, > > Filip > > > > 2010/7/22 M M strategy400@... > > > > > > > > > > > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher. > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > From: prometh@... > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 > programs, but > > > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news! > > > > > > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is > it really > > > worth the extra dough? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" goddardfil@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi again. > > > > > > > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages > (from 0-127 > > > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI > Looper4 (if > > > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be > programmed > > > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for > e.g. if > > > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru > output of > > > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On > MIDI Looper's > > > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and > all you > > > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according > to what you > > > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control > One. It is > > > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Filip > > > > > > > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial > > > > > > > > Steven Vachon pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand > that all > > > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just > bypass them > > > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, > *will such > > > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? > I'd like for > > > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 > distortion, bypass > > > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal > all at the > > > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop > goes out > > > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a > multitrack and > > > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube > saturation > > > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as > opposed > > > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, > the > > > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to > the house > > > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > > > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording > (minus all > > > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live > gig nor > > > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in > advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get > there, > > > > > deep breath and > > > > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are > looking for, > > > > > is what MM > > > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowi > ng you to > > > > > bring your > > > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able > to switch > > > > > them on and > > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be > triggered. > > > > > That is they > > > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the > looper you can > > > > > bring them > > > > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you > could > > > > > either put them > > > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it > has one) via > > > > > the midi > > > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have > never tried > > > > > that. I am > > > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able > to point > > > > > you in the > > > > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using you > r fx loop > > > > > for the power > > > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as > the more > > > > > accomplished > > > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am > intrigued by > > > > > this set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: M M strategy400@ > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/ > etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Commencing facepalm.. > > > > > >  > > > > > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirel > y." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than > once. I need > > > > > the ability > > > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/ > bypassed. > > > > > Besides, I'm > > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk > wylde pedal > > > > > and acoustic > > > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' > interface on > > > > > those pedals > > > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects > > > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi > > > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great > investment. > > > > > You can use > > > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore > entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's > all that's > > > > > available, > > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move > these pedals > > > > > to a rack > > > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C > pedalboard, so > > > > > the Behringer > > > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are > trying to > > > > > switch? It's > > > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore > entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/ > etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > > > > > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" > <prometh@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or > single loop) > > > > > MIDI > > > > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more > elaborate than > > > > > what I need, and > > > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via > the FCB's > > > > > amp switching > > > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless > systems in and > > > > > out so I can > > > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and > magnetic) with my > > > > > feet while > > > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this > way I can > > > > > do a single > > > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to > acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal > that is > > > > > always on in > > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's > effects loop for > > > > > that, with > > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using > it. I do > > > > > this with a > > > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore > entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control > Boss/etc > > > > > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do > do a search > > > > > on Musicians > > > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi > Switchers can > > > > > control several > > > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control > one > > > > > pedal, you may > > > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a > Behringer FCB > > > > > 1010 which > > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly > low cost). > > > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with > MIDI to be > > > > > able to set > > > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be > frustrating > > > > > because of poorly > > > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control > Boss/etc > > > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an > interface even > > > > > exists. I've > > > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand > MIDI itself > > > > > yet, so the > > > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, > but I guess > > > > > that was > > > > > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M > <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface > that allows > > > > > your overdrive > > > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore > entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/ > etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via > a button > > > > > on the Control > > > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the > GSP2101 in > > > > > MIDI-Thru to > > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to > > > > > understand the sysex > > > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I > haven't had > > > > > much luck > > > > > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the > New Busy. > > > > > Get more from > > > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > > > > ocid=PID28326: > > > > > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your > e-mail > > > > > accounts with > > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > > > > tile=multiaccoun > > > > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e- > mail > > > > > accounts with > > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > > tile=multiaccoun > > > > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > > > > > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple > > > > > calendars with > > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > tile=multicalend > > > > > > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > accounts > > > > > with Hotmail. > > > > > > Get busy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple > calendars with > > > Hotmail. Get busy.<http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > > > > > > > > > > >
2010-07-23 by Hari Floura
Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf..... Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry.... ;) ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision. Plus, digital is "simulation" :P --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@...> wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack > (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and > > being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of > the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now > struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge > emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will > need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't > needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand > GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to > disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic > simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a >power > > amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the > > FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital > > effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing > detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out > > to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the >takes). > > However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm > > simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote: > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep >breath > > >and > > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what >MM > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring >your > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on >and > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is >they > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring >them > > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put > >them > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I >am > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in >the > > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the > > >power > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more >accomplished > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: M M strategy400@ ... > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > Commencing facepalm.. > >  > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the > >ability > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, >I'm > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and >acoustic > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those > >pedals > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a > >midi > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can >use > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's >available, > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a >rack > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the > >Behringer > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, > > >and > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp > >switching > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I > >can > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet >while > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a > >single > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on >in > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, >with > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on > >Musicians > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control > >several > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 >which > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of > >poorly > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. > >I've > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so >the > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your > >overdrive > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the > >Control > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru >to > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the > >sysex > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more >from > > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts >with > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > > >Hotmail. > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend > > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > >Hotmail. > > > > Get busy. > > >
2010-07-23 by M M
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.
Plus, digital is "simulation" :P
--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
>; simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
>; >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
>; >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> >; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>; > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
>; > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> >; > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>; > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
>; > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> >; >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > >
> >; > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >; > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >;
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > >; > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the
> >Control
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >
> > >;bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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2010-07-23 by tguitar
Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...----- Original Message -----
From: M MSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:03Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light).
2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!!I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!!I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry.... ;)
From: Steven Vachon com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.
Plus, digital is "simulation" :P
--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
>; to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
> >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >; You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> >; > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
> > > >;
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > >; > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> >; >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
>; > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
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> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
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> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
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> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
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2010-07-23 by Graham Pearson
----- Original Message -----From: tguitarSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PMSubject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...
2010-07-23 by M M
----- Original Message -----From: tguitarSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PMSubject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...
2010-07-23 by Hari Floura
DOH!! Sorry should have said 60/60 was looking at the 50/50, but got a great deal on the 60/60 on Craigs list ($200 and plus just over a $100 to re-tube it). That sucker isn't to light either, just shy of 27lbs! ________________________________
From: M M <strategy400@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:03:37 PM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light). 2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll". "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: scorpio65@yahoo. com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf..... Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry. ... ;) ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@gmail. com> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision. Plus, digital is "simulation" :P --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack > (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and > > being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of > the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now > struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge > emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will > need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't > needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand > GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to > disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic > simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a >power > > amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the > > FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital > > effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing > detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out > > to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the >takes). > > However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm > > simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote: > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep >breath > > >and > > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what >MM > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring >your > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on >and > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is >they > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring >them > > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put > >them > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I >am > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in >the > > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the > > >power > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more >accomplished > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: M M strategy400@ ... > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > Commencing facepalm.. > >  > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the > >ability > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, >I'm > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and >acoustic > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those > >pedals > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a > >midi > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can >use > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's >available, > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a >rack > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the > >Behringer > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, > > >and > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp > >switching > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I > >can > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet >while > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a > >single > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on >in > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, >with > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on > >Musicians > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control > >several > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 >which > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of > >poorly > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. > >I've > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so >the > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your > >overdrive > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the > >Control > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru >to > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the > >sysex > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more >from > > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts >with > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > http://www.windowsl/ ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > > >Hotmail. > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend > > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > >Hotmail. > > > > Get busy. > > > ________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.
2010-07-23 by Graham Pearson
----- Original Message -----From: M MSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:24 PMSubject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?Got a link to the pic?
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@grahampearson.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.----- Original Message -----From: tguitarSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PMSubject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...
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2010-07-24 by M M
----- Original Message -----From: M MSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:24 PMSubject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?Got a link to the pic?
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@grahampearson.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.----- Original Message -----From: tguitarSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PMSubject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...
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2010-07-24 by M M
I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then ;its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light).
2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.
Plus, digital is "simulation" :P
--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Steven Vachon <;prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>;
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
> >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> >; >
> > >
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> >; >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >; > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> >; > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
>; > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
>; > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>; > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the
>; >Control
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > >;
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > >
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2010-07-24 by tguitar
----- Original Message -----From: Graham PearsonSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:38 PMSubject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.----- Original Message -----From: tguitarSent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PMSubject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...
2010-07-24 by Hari Floura
MM, Just spotted a Peavey 50/50 on e-bay for $350 ________________________________
From: M M <strategy400@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:00:42 PM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Just threw the 400 on the scale. 68.9 lbs. with the 4 space rack covering it. Feels a lot heavier though. "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: scorpio65@yahoo. com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:49:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? DOH!! Sorry should have said 60/60 was looking at the 50/50, but got a great deal on the 60/60 on Craigs list ($200 and plus just over a $100 to re-tube it). That sucker isn't to light either, just shy of 27lbs! ________________________________ From: M M <strategy400@ hotmail.com> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:03:37 PM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light). 2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll". "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: scorpio65@yahoo. com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf..... Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry. ... ;) ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@gmail. com> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision. Plus, digital is "simulation" :P --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack > (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and > > being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of > the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now > struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge > emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will > need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't > needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand > GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to > disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic > simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a >power > > amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the > > FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital > > effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing > detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out > > to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the >takes). > > However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm > > simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote: > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep >breath > > >and > > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what >MM > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring >your > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on >and > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is >they > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring >them > > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put > >them > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I >am > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in >the > > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the > > >power > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more >accomplished > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: M M strategy400@ ... > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > Commencing facepalm.. > >  > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the > >ability > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, >I'm > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and >acoustic > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those > >pedals > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a > >midi > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can >use > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's >available, > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a >rack > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the > >Behringer > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, > > >and > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp > >switching > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I > >can > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet >while > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a > >single > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on >in > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, >with > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on > >Musicians > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control > >several > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 >which > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of > >poorly > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. > >I've > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so >the > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your > >overdrive > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the > >Control > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru >to > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the > >sysex > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more >from > > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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2010-07-24 by Steven Vachon
Filip, what about if a button on the Control One is bound to a parameter change; what message will be sent to a unit such as the WOBO? --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa <goddardfil@...> wrote:
> > Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's channels or > remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. You cannot > connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both bypassing effects > and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs and > outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects. > > In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program number - > program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need different PC > messages in a single bank then you would have to put different programs into > single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can set it to > react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - 10-19, etc. > > Cheers, > Filip > > 2010/7/22 M M <strategy400@...> > > > > > > > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher. > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: prometh@... > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but > > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news! > > > > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really > > worth the extra dough? > > > > Thanks > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" <goddardfil@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi again. > > > > > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127 > > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if > > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed > > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if > > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of > > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's > > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you > > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you > > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is > > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Filip > > > > > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial > > > > > > Steven Vachon pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all > > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them > > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such > > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for > > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass > > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the > > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out > > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and > > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation > > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed > > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the > > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house > > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all > > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor > > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, > > > > deep breath and > > > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > > > > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, > > > > is what MM > > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to > > > > bring your > > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch > > > > them on and > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. > > > > That is they > > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can > > > > bring them > > > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could > > > > either put them > > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via > > > > the midi > > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried > > > > that. I am > > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point > > > > you in the > > > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > > > > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop > > > > for the power > > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more > > > > accomplished > > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by > > > > this set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: M M strategy400@ > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Commencing facepalm.. > > > > >  > > > > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need > > > > the ability > > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. > > > > Besides, I'm > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal > > > > and acoustic > > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on > > > > those pedals > > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects > > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi > > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. > > > > You can use > > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's > > > > available, > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals > > > > to a rack > > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so > > > > the Behringer > > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to > > > > switch? It's > > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > > > > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) > > > > MIDI > > > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than > > > > what I need, and > > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's > > > > amp switching > > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and > > > > out so I can > > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my > > > > feet while > > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can > > > > do a single > > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is > > > > always on in > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for > > > > that, with > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do > > > > this with a > > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc > > > > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search > > > > on Musicians > > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can > > > > control several > > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one > > > > pedal, you may > > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB > > > > 1010 which > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be > > > > able to set > > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating > > > > because of poorly > > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc > > pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even > > > > exists. I've > > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself > > > > yet, so the > > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess > > > > that was > > > > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows > > > > your overdrive > > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button > > > > on the Control > > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in > > > > MIDI-Thru to > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to > > > > understand the sysex > > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had > > > > much luck > > > > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. > > > > Get more from > > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > > > ocid=PID28326: > > > > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > > > > accounts with > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > > > tile=multiaccoun > > > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > > > > accounts with > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? > > tile=multiaccoun > > > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple > > > > calendars with > > > > > >Hotmail. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend > > > > > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts > > > > with Hotmail. > > > > > Get busy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > > Hotmail. Get busy.<http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5> > > > > >
2010-08-01 by Steven Vachon