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Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-13 by Steven Vachon

Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.

But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.

Thanks

RE: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-14 by M M

You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).

Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.



"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.

But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.

Thanks



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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-14 by Steven Vachon

I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.

Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> 
>  
> 
> Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> 
> 
>  
>  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> 
> But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  		 	   		  
> _________________________________________________________________
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-14 by Hari Floura

What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend 
or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several 
devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 
which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly 
written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )




________________________________
From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read 
through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual 
kinda goes over my head.

Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> 
> You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal 
>to be bypass/engage(d).
> 
> 
> 
> Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> 
> 
> 
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, 
>I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to 
>bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> 
> But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex 
>messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
>investigating this myself.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________
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>inbox.
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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-14 by M M

I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.

I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.

If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@...m
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: scorpio65@...
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )

From: Steven Vachon com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.

Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M ...> wrote:
>
>
> You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
>
>
>
> Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
>
>
>
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
>
>
>
> Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
>
> But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
>
>; Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon

Thank you, now I know the terminology for what I need.

As for the Behringer FCB 1010, it won't fit on my pedal board! Heheh. So, I'm stuck with the Control One

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend 
> or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several 
> devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
> want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 
> which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
> Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
> everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly 
> written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read 
> through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual 
> kinda goes over my head.
> 
> Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal 
> >to be bypass/engage(d).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, 
> >I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to 
> >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > 
> > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex 
> >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
> >investigating this myself.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your 
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon

Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> 
> I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> 
>  
> 
> I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> 
>  
> 
> If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
>  
>  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: scorpio65@...
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
>   
> 
> I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> 
> Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > 
> > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox.
> > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon

Would this work?

http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> >  
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: scorpio65@
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > 
> > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@...m
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > 
> > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox.
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  		 	   		  
> > _________________________________________________________________
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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by M M

Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@...
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Would this work?

http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
>
> Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> >
> >
> >
> > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: scorpio65@
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Steven Vachon
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> >
> > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M > > >
> > >
> > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> >; >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>; > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > >
> > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox.
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by Hari Floura

From the limited information on the website it seems this device is really 
intended to network their LeHle SGoS products. As far as I am aware 
the Behringer FCB 1010 is the only commercial low cost solution that offers 
effects or amp switching. If you are handy with a soldering iron and know your 
way around a schematic diagram you can also try this kit : 
http://www.jimkim.de/html/guitar01_01.htm. Hope this helps.





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From: M M <strategy400@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 12:21:55 AM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still 
not clear what interfaces you are working with.

 "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



 

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To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: prometh@gmail. com
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Would this work?

http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
>
> Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? 
>All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a 
>result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching 
>capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can 
>switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while 
>simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single 
>pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and 
>out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some 
>minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger 
>pedal with decent results.
> > 
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: scorpio65@
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians 
>Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several 
>devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
>want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which 
>has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
>Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
>everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly 
>written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've 
>read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the 
>manual kinda goes over my head.
> > 
> > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive 
>pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control 
>One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to 
>bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > 
> > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex 
>messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
>investigating this myself.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by M M

I use this A/B pedal with my FCB1010.

http://www.nobels.com/cgi-bin/products/show.pl?e_ab-1

This looks like a midi controlled switcher

http://www.nobels.com/cgi-bin/products/show.pl?e_ms-4

They have a few possibly useful items, check it out. You could use their midi controlled switcher in conjunction with their analog looper to create multiple effects loops?

http://www.nobels.com/en/index.htm


"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




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From: scorpio65@...
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:37:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

From the limited information on the website it seems this device is really intended to network their LeHle SGoS products. As far as I am aware the Behringer FCB 1010 is the only commercial low cost solution that offers effects or amp switching. If you are handy with a soldering iron and know your way around a schematic diagram you can also try this kit : http://www.jimkim.de/html/guitar01_01.htm. Hope this helps.

From: M M hotmail.com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 12:21:55 AM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what ;interfaces you are working with.

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: prometh@gmail. com
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Would this work?

http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
>
> Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> >
> >
> >
> > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: scorpio65@
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Steven Vachon
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> >
> > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > >
> > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by Steven Vachon

GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3

The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> 
> Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> 
>  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Would this work?
> 
> http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> >
> > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: scorpio65@
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > 
> > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > 
> > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by goddardfil@gmail.com

I myself use WOBO MIDI Looper4 and control all of my gear from Control  
One via GSP2101. There is also single MIDI Looper available: www.woboge.com/midi.html

Cheers,
Filip

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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-16 by M M

Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals other than your big toe on the pedal.
;
You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).

A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3

The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
>
>
> Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
>
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
>
>
>
> Would this work?
>
> http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en
>
>; --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> >
> > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >;
> > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >;
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: scorpio65@
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > >
> > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
>; > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
>; > > >
> > > >
> > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> > > >
> > > >
> >; > >
> > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: prometh@
>; > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > >
> > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-17 by Steven Vachon

The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals other than your big toe on the pedal.
> 
>  
> 
> You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> 
>  
> 
> A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
>  
>  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> 
> The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > 
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Would this work?
> > 
> > http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > 
> > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-17 by M M

Commencing facepalm..

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@...
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
>
>
> Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals other than your big toe on the pedal.
>;
>
>
> You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
>
>
>
> A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
>
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
>
>
>
> GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
>
> The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer won't fit along with my wah and whammy
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >;
> >
> >
> >
> > Would this work?
> >
> > http://www.lehle.com/products/MidiJunction/index.php?country=us&lang=en
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > >
>; > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> >; >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> >; > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >; If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >; > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > >
> > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was wrong?
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive pedal to be bypass/engage(d).
>; > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > >; > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck investigating this myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-17 by Hari Floura

Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath and 
count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 

Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM 
is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your 
pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and 
off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they 
will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them 
into or out of your fx chain. 


As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put them 
in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi 
looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am 
sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the 
right direction there if you need it.

Hope that helps  clarify things 

Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the power 
amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished 
musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.




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From: M M <strategy400@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Commencing facepalm..
 
 "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



 

________________________________
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: prometh@gmail. com
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability 
to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm 
already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic 
>simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals 
>other than your big toe on the pedal.
> 
> 
> 
> You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi 
>controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> 
> 
> 
> A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use 
>the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> 
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> From: prometh@...
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> 
> The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, 
>then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack 
>shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer 
>won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's 
>still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > 
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Would this work?
> > 
> > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI 
>switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and 
>as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching 
>capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can 
>switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while 
>simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single 
>pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in 
>and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with 
>some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a 
>flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians 
>Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several 
>devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
>want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which 
>has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
>Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
>everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly 
>written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've 
>read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the 
>manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > 
> > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was 
>wrong?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive 
>pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control 
>One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to 
>bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex 
>messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
>investigating this myself.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-20 by Steven Vachon

Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.

My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.


--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura wrote:
>
> Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath and
> count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
>
> Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
> is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
> pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
> will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
> into or out of your fx chain.
>
>
> As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put them
> in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
> sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
> right direction there if you need it.
>
> Hope that helps ; clarify things
>
> Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the power
> amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
> musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: M M strategy400@...
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Commencing facepalm..
> Â
> Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
> Â
>
> ________________________________
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> From: prometh@gmail. com
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability
> to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
> >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals
> >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi
> >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> >
> >
> >
>; > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
> >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> >
> > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
> >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer
> >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> >; > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would this work?
> > >
> > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and
> >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching
> >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can
> >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
> >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single
> >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >; > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >; > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians
> >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several
> >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly
> >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've
> >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
> >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > >
> > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> >wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive
> >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > >
> >; > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >; > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control
> >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex
> >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> >investigating this myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-21 by goddardfil@gmail.com

Hi again.

Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127 - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.

Cheers,
Filip

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Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.


My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.


--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath and
> count to 10 , and think nice thoughts
>
> Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
> is trying to say . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
> pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
> will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
> into or out of your fx chain.
>
>
> As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put them
> in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
> sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
> right direction there if you need it.
>
> Hope that helps clarify things
>
> Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the power
> amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
> musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: M M strategy400@...
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
> Commencing facepalm..
>
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> From: prometh@gmail. com
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
>
> The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the ability
> to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> >
> >
> > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
> >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those pedals
> >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a midi
> >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> >
> >
> >
> > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
> >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> >
> > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
> >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the Behringer
> >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would this work?
> > >
> > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, and
> >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp switching
> >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I can
> >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
> >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a single
> >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on Musicians
> >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control several
> >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of poorly
> >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. I've
> >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
> >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > >
> > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> >wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your overdrive
> >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the Control
> >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the sysex
> >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> >investigating this myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from
> >your inbox.
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by Steven Vachon

Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!

Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really worth the extra dough?

Thanks

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." <goddardfil@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi again.
> 
> Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127 
> - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if 
> you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed 
> to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if 
> you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of 
> the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's 
> LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you 
> need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you 
> need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is 
> automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
> 
> Cheers,
> Filip
> 
> www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
> 
> Steven Vachon pisze:
> >  
> >
> > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all 
> > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them 
> > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such 
> > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for 
> > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass 
> > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the 
> > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> >
> >
> > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out 
> > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and 
> > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation 
> > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed 
> > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the 
> > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house 
> > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live 
> > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all 
> > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor 
> > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> >
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, 
> > deep breath and
> > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 
> > >
> > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, 
> > is what MM
> > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to 
> > bring your
> > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch 
> > them on and
> > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. 
> > That is they
> > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can 
> > bring them
> > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could 
> > either put them
> > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via 
> > the midi
> > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried 
> > that. I am
> > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point 
> > you in the
> > > right direction there if you need it.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > >
> > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop 
> > for the power
> > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more 
> > accomplished
> > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by 
> > this set up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â 
> > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > Â 
> > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â 
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â 
> > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need 
> > the ability
> > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. 
> > Besides, I'm
> > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal 
> > and acoustic
> > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on 
> > those pedals
> > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects 
> > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. 
> > You can use
> > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > >
> > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's 
> > available,
> > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals 
> > to a rack
> > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so 
> > the Behringer
> > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to 
> > switch? It's
> > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this work?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? 
> > country=us&lang=en
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) 
> > MIDI
> > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than 
> > what I need, and
> > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's 
> > amp switching
> > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and 
> > out so I can
> > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my 
> > feet while
> > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can 
> > do a single
> > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is 
> > always on in
> > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for 
> > that, with
> > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do 
> > this with a
> > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc 
> > pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search 
> > on Musicians
> > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can 
> > control several
> > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one 
> > pedal, you may
> > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 
> > 1010 which
> > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be 
> > able to set
> > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating 
> > because of poorly
> > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even 
> > exists. I've
> > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself 
> > yet, so the
> > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess 
> > that was
> > > >wrong?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows 
> > your overdrive
> > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button 
> > on the Control
> > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in 
> > MIDI-Thru to
> > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to 
> > understand the sysex
> > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had 
> > much luck
> > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by M M

Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@...
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!

Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really worth the extra dough?

Thanks

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." ; wrote:
>
> Hi again.
>
> Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
>
> Cheers,
> Filip
>
> www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
>
> Steven Vachon pisze:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> >
> >
> > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> >
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > deep breath and
> > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > >
> > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> >; is what MM
> > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > bring your
> > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > them on and
> > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > That is they
> > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > bring them
> > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > either put them
> > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > the midi
> > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > that. I am
> > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > you in the
> > > right direction there if you need it.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps  clarify things
>; > >
> > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > for the power
> > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > accomplished
> > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > this set up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > Â
> > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > the ability
> > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > Besides, I'm
> > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > and acoustic
> > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > those pedals
> > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > You can use
> > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > >
> > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > available,
> > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > to a rack
> > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > the Behringer
> > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > switch? It's
> > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >; > >
> > > > > Would this work?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > country=us&lang=en
> > > > >
> > > > >; --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > MIDI
> > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > what I need, and
> > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > amp switching
> > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > out so I can
> > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > feet while
> > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > do a single
> > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > always on in
> > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > that, with
> > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > this with a
> > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >; > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
> > on Musicians
> > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > control several
> > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > pedal, you may
> > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > 1010 which
> > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > able to set
> > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > because of poorly
> > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > >; > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >;
> > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > exists. I've
> > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > yet, so the
> > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > that was
> > > >wrong?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > your overdrive
> > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
>; > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > on the Control
> > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > MIDI-Thru to
> > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > understand the sysex
> > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > much luck
> > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> > _________ _
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> > > >; > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by Filip Wyrwa

Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's channels or remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. You cannot connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both bypassing effects and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs and outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects.

In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program number - program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need different PC messages in a single bank then you would have to put different programs into single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can set it to react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - 10-19, etc.

Cheers,
Filip
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2010/7/22 M M <strategy400@...>

Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.



"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@...
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000

Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!

Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really worth the extra dough?

Thanks

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." wrote:
>
> Hi again.
>
> Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
>
> Cheers,
> Filip
>
> www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
>
> Steven Vachon pisze:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> >; same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> >
> >
> > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> >
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > deep breath and
> > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > >
> > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > is what MM
> > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > bring your
> > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > them on and
> > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > That is they
> > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > bring them
>; > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > either put them
> > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > the midi
> > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > that. I am
> > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > you in the
> > > right direction there if you need it.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > >
> > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > for the power
> > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > accomplished
> > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > this set up.
> > >
> > >;
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > Â
> > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > the ability
> > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > Besides, I'm
> > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >; > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > and acoustic
> > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > those pedals
> > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > You can use
> > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > >;
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > >
> > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > available,
> > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > to a rack
> > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > the Behringer
> > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > switch? It's
> > >; >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > >; > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; > Would this work?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > country=us&lang=en
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > > >;
> > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > MIDI
> > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > what I need, and
> > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > amp switching
> > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > out so I can
> > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > feet while
> > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > do a single
> > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > always on in
> > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > that, with
> >; > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > this with a
> > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
>; > on Musicians
> > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > control several
> > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > pedal, you may
> > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > 1010 which
> > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > able to set
> > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > because of poorly
> > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >; > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > exists. I've
> > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > yet, so the
> > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > that was
> > > >wrong?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > your overdrive
> > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > on the Control
> > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > MIDI-Thru to
> > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > understand the sysex
> > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > much luck
> > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> > _________ _
> > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy.
> > Get more from
> > > >your inbox.
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > accounts with
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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> > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by Hari Floura

Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack 
(Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and 
being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of 
the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now 
struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge 
emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! 




________________________________
From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will 
need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't 
needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand 
GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to 
disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic 
simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. 


My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power 
amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the 
FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital 
effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing 
detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out 
to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live 
recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). 
However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm 
simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.



--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote:
>
> Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath 
>and 
>
> count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 
> 
> Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM 

> is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your 

> pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and 
>
> off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they 

> will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them 

> into or out of your fx chain. 
> 
> 
> As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put 
>them 
>
> in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi 
> looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am 

> sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the 

> right direction there if you need it.
> 
> Hope that helps  clarify things 
> 
> Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the 
>power 
>
> amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished 

> musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: M M strategy400@ ...
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> Commencing facepalm..
> Â 
> Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> From: prometh@gmail. com
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the 
>ability 
>
> to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm 
>
> already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic 

> >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those 
>pedals 
>
> >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a 
>midi 
>
> >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use 

> >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > 
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > 
> > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, 
>
> >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack 

> >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the 
>Behringer 
>
> >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's 
> >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Would this work?
> > > 
> > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? 
country=us&lang=en
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> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI 
> >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, 
>and 
>
> >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp 
>switching 
>
> >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I 
>can 
>
> >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while 

> >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a 
>single 
>
> >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in 
>
> >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with 
>
> >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a 
> >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on 
>Musicians 
>
> >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control 
>several 
>
> >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
> >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which 
>
> >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
> >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
> >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of 
>poorly 
>
> >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. 
>I've 
>
> >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the 

> >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was 
> >wrong?
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your 
>overdrive 
>
> >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the 
>Control 
>
> >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to 
>
> >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the 
>sysex 
>
> >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
> >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by Steven Vachon

Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack 
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and 
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of 
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now 
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge 
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will 
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't 
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand 
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to 
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic 
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. 
> 
> 
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power 
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the 
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital 
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing 
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out 
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live 
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). 
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm 
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath 
> >and 
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 
> > 
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM 
> 
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your 
> 
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and 
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they 
> 
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them 
> 
> > into or out of your fx chain. 
> > 
> > 
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put 
> >them 
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi 
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am 
> 
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the 
> 
> > right direction there if you need it.
> > 
> > Hope that helps  clarify things 
> > 
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the 
> >power 
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished 
> 
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > Commencing facepalm..
> >  
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the 
> >ability 
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm 
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic 
> 
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those 
> >pedals 
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a 
> >midi 
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use 
> 
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > 
> > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, 
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack 
> 
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the 
> >Behringer 
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's 
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Would this work?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? 
> country=us&lang=en
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI 
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, 
> >and 
> >
> > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp 
> >switching 
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I 
> >can 
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while 
> 
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a 
> >single 
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in 
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with 
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a 
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on 
> >Musicians 
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control 
> >several 
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which 
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of 
> >poorly 
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. 
> >I've 
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the 
> 
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was 
> > >wrong?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your 
> >overdrive 
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the 
> >Control 
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to 
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the 
> >sysex 
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from 
> >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with 
> >
> > >Hotmail.
> > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun 
> > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with 
> > >Hotmail.
> > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multiaccoun 
> > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with 
> > >Hotmail. 
> > >
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> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with 
> >Hotmail. 
> >
> > Get busy.
> >
>

Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by Steven Vachon

Hmm, well the website says this:

Extremely easy operation. With the MS-4 up to four conventional switch functions (like Reverb On/Off, Channel Select, Bypass, etc.

and the manual mentions this:

There are still a lot of units (Amplifiers, footpedals...) which are not able to be switched by Midi.

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa wrote:
>
> Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's channels or
> remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. You cannot
> connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both bypassing effects
> and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs and
> outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects.
>
> In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program number -
> program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need different PC
> messages in a single bank then you would have to put different programs into
> single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can set it to
> react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - 10-19, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Filip
>
> 2010/7/22 M M strategy400@...
>
> >
> >
> > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.
> >
> >
> > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@...
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
> >
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> > Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but
> > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!
> >
> > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really
> > worth the extra dough?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" goddardfil@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi again.
> > >
> > >; Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Filip
> > >
> > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
> > >
> > > Steven Vachon pisze:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> >; > >
> > > >
> > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
>; > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > > > deep breath and
> > > > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > > > is what MM
> > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > > > bring your
> > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > > > them on and
> > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > > > That is they
> > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > > > bring them
> > > > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > > > either put them
> > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > > > the midi
> > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > > > that. I am
> > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > > > you in the
> > > > > right direction there if you need it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > > > >
> > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > > > for the power
> > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > > > accomplished
> > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > > > this set up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >; > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >;
> > > > > Â
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > > > the ability
> > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > > > Besides, I'm
> > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> >; > > > >
> > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > > > and acoustic
> > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > > > those pedals
> > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > > > You can use
> > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@
>; > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
>; > > > > >
> > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > > > >
> > >; > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > > > available,
> > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > > > to a rack
> > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > > > the Behringer
> > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > > > switch? It's
> > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >; > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > >; > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would this work?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > > > country=us&lang=en
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon"
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > > > MIDI
> > > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > > > what I need, and
> > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> >; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >; > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > > > amp switching
> > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > > > out so I can
> > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > > > feet while
> > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > > > do a single
> > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > > > always on in
> > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > > > that, with
> > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > > > this with a
> > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
>; > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
> > > > on Musicians
> > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > >; > control several
> > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > > > pedal, you may
> > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > > > 1010 which
> >; > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > > > able to set
> > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > > > because of poorly
> > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> >; pedals?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > > > exists. I've
> > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > > > yet, so the
> > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > > > that was
> > > > > >wrong?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > > > your overdrive
> > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > >; > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > > > on the Control
> > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > > > MIDI-Thru to
> > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > > > understand the sysex
> > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > > > much luck
> > > > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> > > > _________ _
> > > > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy.
> > > > Get more from
> > > > > >your inbox.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy?
> > > > ocid=PID28326:
> > >; > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
> > _________ _
> > > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail
> > > > accounts with
> > > > > >Hotmail.
> > > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy?
> > > > tile=multiaccoun
> > > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail
> > > > accounts with
> > >; > > >Hotmail.
> > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy?
> > tile=multiaccoun
> > > > > >t&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple
> > > > calendars with
> > > > > >Hotmail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? tile=multicalend
> > > > > >ar&ocid=PID28326: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_5
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts
> > > > with Hotmail.
> > > > > Get busy.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> > Hotmail. Get busy.
> >
> >
>

Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-22 by goddardfil@gmail.com

Hi again,

The outputs of Nobels MS4 are simple latching sockets that can be  
connected to amp's footswitch sockets and replace standard amp's  
footswitch. Therefore you can control non-midi amp via MIDI commands.  
You can also connect and control some devices that has 1/4" jack  
socket that can be used to control the unit but I've never seen guitar  
effect with bypass remote socket.

The list: 'Reverb On/Off, Channel Select, Bypass refers to amp's  
functions - bypass means a bypass of amp's FX loop.

The unit to be a 'bypassing' looper has to have input, output and send 
+return for every loop/connected device that you need to control  
individually. Nobels has just 4 1/4" jack sockets activated via MIDI.

All the best,
Filip Wyrwa

www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial

Sent from iPhone

Dnia 22 Jul 2010 o godz. 18:05 "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...>  
napisał(a):
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> Hmm, well the website says this:
>
> Extremely easy operation. With the MS-4 up to four conventional  
> switch functions (like Reverb On/Off, Channel Select, Bypass, etc.
>
> and the manual mentions this:
>
> There are still a lot of units (Amplifiers, footpedals...) which are  
> not able to be switched by Midi.
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa <goddardfil@...> wrote:
> >
> > Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's  
> channels or
> > remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack.  
> You cannot
> > connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both  
> bypassing effects
> > and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs  
> and
> > outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects.
> >
> > In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program  
> number -
> > program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need  
> different PC
> > messages in a single bank then you would have to put different  
> programs into
> > single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can  
> set it to
> > react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 -  
> 10-19, etc.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Filip
> >
> > 2010/7/22 M M strategy400@...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: prometh@...
> > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
> > >
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101  
> programs, but
> > > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!
> > >
> > > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is  
> it really
> > > worth the extra dough?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" goddardfil@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again.
> > > >
> > > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages  
> (from 0-127
> > > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI  
> Looper4 (if
> > > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be  
> programmed
> > > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for  
> e.g. if
> > > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru  
> output of
> > > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On  
> MIDI Looper's
> > > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and  
> all you
> > > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according  
> to what you
> > > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control  
> One. It is
> > > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Filip
> > > >
> > > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
> > > >
> > > > Steven Vachon pisze:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand  
> that all
> > > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just  
> bypass them
> > > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is,  
> *will such
> > > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*?  
> I'd like for
> > > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101  
> distortion, bypass
> > > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal  
> all at the
> > > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop  
> goes out
> > > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a  
> multitrack and
> > > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube  
> saturation
> > > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as  
> opposed
> > > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there,  
> the
> > > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to  
> the house
> > > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording  
> (minus all
> > > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live  
> gig nor
> > > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in  
> advance.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@>  
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get 
>  there,
> > > > > deep breath and
> > > > > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are  
> looking for,
> > > > > is what MM
> > > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowi 
> ng you to
> > > > > bring your
> > > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able  
> to switch
> > > > > them on and
> > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be  
> triggered.
> > > > > That is they
> > > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the  
> looper you can
> > > > > bring them
> > > > > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you  
> could
> > > > > either put them
> > > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it  
> has one) via
> > > > > the midi
> > > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have  
> never tried
> > > > > that. I am
> > > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able  
> to point
> > > > > you in the
> > > > > > right direction there if you need it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using you 
> r fx loop
> > > > > for the power
> > > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as  
> the more
> > > > > accomplished
> > > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am  
> intrigued by
> > > > > this set up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/ 
> etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirel 
> y."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc  
> pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than  
> once. I need
> > > > > the ability
> > > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/ 
> bypassed.
> > > > > Besides, I'm
> > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...>  
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk  
> wylde pedal
> > > > > and acoustic
> > > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching'  
> interface on
> > > > > those pedals
> > > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great  
> investment.
> > > > > You can use
> > > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore  
> entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc  
> pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's  
> all that's
> > > > > available,
> > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move  
> these pedals
> > > > > to a rack
> > > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C  
> pedalboard, so
> > > > > the Behringer
> > > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@>  
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are  
> trying to
> > > > > switch? It's
> > > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore  
> entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/ 
> etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would this work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > > > > country=us&lang=en
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon"  
> <prometh@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or  
> single loop)
> > > > > MIDI
> > > > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more  
> elaborate than
> > > > > what I need, and
> > > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@>  
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via  
> the FCB's
> > > > > amp switching
> > > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless  
> systems in and
> > > > > out so I can
> > > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and  
> magnetic) with my
> > > > > feet while
> > > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this  
> way I can
> > > > > do a single
> > > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to  
> acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal  
> that is
> > > > > always on in
> > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's  
> effects loop for
> > > > > that, with
> > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using  
> it. I do
> > > > > this with a
> > > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore  
> entirely."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control  
> Boss/etc
> > > > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do  
> do a search
> > > > > on Musicians
> > > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi  
> Switchers can
> > > > > control several
> > > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control  
> one
> > > > > pedal, you may
> > > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a  
> Behringer FCB
> > > > > 1010 which
> > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly  
> low cost).
> > > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with  
> MIDI to be
> > > > > able to set
> > > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be  
> frustrating
> > > > > because of poorly
> > > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control  
> Boss/etc
> > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an  
> interface even
> > > > > exists. I've
> > > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand  
> MIDI itself
> > > > > yet, so the
> > > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet,  
> but I guess
> > > > > that was
> > > > > > >wrong?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M  
> <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface  
> that allows
> > > > > your overdrive
> > > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore  
> entirely."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/ 
> etc pedals?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via  
> a button
> > > > > on the Control
> > > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the  
> GSP2101 in
> > > > > MIDI-Thru to
> > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > > > > understand the sysex
> > > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I  
> haven't had
> > > > > much luck
> > > > > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> _________
> > > > > _________ _
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by Hari Floura

Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite 
Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! 


I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my 
signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve 
poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab 
models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but 
it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true 
valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone 
is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). 
 I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really 
are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our 
toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! 

I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily 
for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit 
more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so 
for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....  

Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of 
topic......sorry.... ;)


________________________________
From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already 
bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst 
thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack 
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and 
>
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of 

> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now 
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge 
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will 

> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't 
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand 

> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to 
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic 
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. 
> 
> 
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a 
>power 
>
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the 
>
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital 
>
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing 
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out 
>
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live 
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the 
>takes). 
>
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm 
>
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep 
>breath 
>
> >and 
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 
> > 
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what 
>MM 
>
> 
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring 
>your 
>
> 
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on 
>and 
>
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is 
>they 
>
> 
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring 
>them 
>
> 
> > into or out of your fx chain. 
> > 
> > 
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put 
> >them 
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi 
>
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I 
>am 
>
> 
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in 
>the 
>
> 
> > right direction there if you need it.
> > 
> > Hope that helps  clarify things 
> > 
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the 
>
> >power 
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more 
>accomplished 
>
> 
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set 
up.
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > Commencing facepalm..
> >  
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the 
> >ability 
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, 
>I'm 
>
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and 
>acoustic 
>
> 
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those 
> >pedals 
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a 
> >midi 
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can 
>use 
>
> 
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > 
> > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's 
>available, 
>
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a 
>rack 
>
> 
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the 
> >Behringer 
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's 
>
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Would this work?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? 
> country=us&lang=en
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI 
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, 
>
> >and 
> >
> > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp 
> >switching 
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I 

> >can 
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet 
>while 
>
> 
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a 
> >single 
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on 
>in 
>
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, 
>with 
>
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a 

> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on 
> >Musicians 
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control 
> >several 
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
>
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 
>which 
>
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
>
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of 
> >poorly 
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. 

> >I've 
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so 
>the 
>
> 
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was 

> > >wrong?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your 
> >overdrive 
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the 
> >Control 
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru 
>to 
>
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the 
> >sysex 
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by M M

I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light).

2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".



"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
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From: scorpio65@...
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!!
I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq ;to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by ;using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!!
I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....
Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry.... ;)
From: Steven Vachon com>;
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
>; simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
>; >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
>; >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> >; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>; > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
>; > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> >; > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>; > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
>; > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> >; >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > >
> >; > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >; > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >;
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > >; > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the
> >Control
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >
> > >;bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by tguitar

Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...
----- Original Message -----
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From: M M
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:03Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light).

2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".



"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!!
I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!!
I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....
Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry.... ;)
From: Steven Vachon com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
>; to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
> >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >; You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> >; > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
> > > >;
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > >; > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> >; >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
>; > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the
> >Control
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >; > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by Graham Pearson

That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.
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----- Original Message -----
From: tguitar
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...

RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by M M

Got a link to the pic?

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@grahampearson.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.
----- Original Message -----
From: tguitar
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...



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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by Hari Floura

DOH!! Sorry should have said 60/60 was looking at the 50/50, but got a great 
deal on the 60/60 on Craigs list  ($200 and plus just over a $100 to re-tube 
it). That sucker isn't to light either, just shy of 27lbs!




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From: M M <strategy400@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:03:37 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels 
like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs 
only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it 
to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light). 

 
2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".


 
 "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



 

________________________________
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite 
Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! 


I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my 
signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve 
poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab 
models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but 
it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true 
valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone 
is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). 
 I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really 
are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our 
toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! 

I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily 
for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit 
more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so 
for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....  

Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry. 
... ;)


________________________________
From: Steven Vachon <prometh@gmail. com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already 
bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst 
thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack 
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and 
>
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of 

> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now 
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge 
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will 

> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't 
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand 

> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to 
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic 
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. 
> 
> 
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a 
>power 
>
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the 
>
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital 
>
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing 
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out 
>
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live 
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the 
>takes). 
>
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm 
>
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep 
>breath 
>
> >and 
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 
> > 
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what 
>MM 
>
> 
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring 
>your 
>
> 
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on 
>and 
>
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is 
>they 
>
> 
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring 
>them 
>
> 
> > into or out of your fx chain. 
> > 
> > 
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put 
> >them 
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi 
>
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I 
>am 
>
> 
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in 
>the 
>
> 
> > right direction there if you need it.
> > 
> > Hope that helps  clarify things 
> > 
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the 
>
> >power 
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more 
>accomplished 
>
> 
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set 
up.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > Commencing facepalm..
> >  
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the 
> >ability 
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, 
>I'm 
>
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and 
>acoustic 
>
> 
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those 
> >pedals 
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a 
> >midi 
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can 
>use 
>
> 
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > 
> > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's 
>available, 
>
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a 
>rack 
>
> 
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the 
> >Behringer 
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's 
>
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Would this work?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? 
> country=us&lang=en
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI 
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, 
>
> >and 
> >
> > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp 
> >switching 
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I 

> >can 
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet 
>while 
>
> 
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a 
> >single 
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on 
>in 
>
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, 
>with 
>
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a 

> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on 
> >Musicians 
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control 
> >several 
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
>
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 
>which 
>
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
>
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of 
> >poorly 
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. 

> >I've 
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so 
>the 
>
> 
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was 

> > >wrong?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your 
> >overdrive 
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the 
> >Control 
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru 
>to 
>
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the 
> >sysex 
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more 
>from 
>
> >
> > >your inbox.
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> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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> >
>





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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-23 by Graham Pearson

Go to the Yahoo gsp-2101 Discussion group, click on the Photos link, and then click on the GSP-2101 / Power Amp Setups album:
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----- Original Message -----
From: M M
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Got a link to the pic?

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@grahampearson.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.
----- Original Message -----
From: tguitar
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...



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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-24 by M M

Had to jump through about 50 flaming hoops to see that, but nice cabs too.



"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@...
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:46:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Go to the Yahoo gsp-2101 Discussion group, click on the Photos link, and then click on the GSP-2101 / Power Amp Setups album:
----- Original Message -----
From: M M
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Got a link to the pic?

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: me@grahampearson.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:38:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.
----- Original Message -----
From: tguitar
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...




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RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-24 by M M

Just threw the 400 on the scale. 68.9 lbs. with the 4 space rack covering it.

Feels a lot heavier though.

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
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From: scorpio65@...
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:49:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

DOH!! Sorry should have said 60/60 was looking at the 50/50, but got a great deal on the 60/60 on Craigs list ($200 and ;plus just over a $100 to re-tube it). That sucker isn't to light either, just shy of 27lbs!

From: M M hotmail.com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:03:37 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then ;its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light).

2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".



"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."




To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!!
I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I ;originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!!
I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....
Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry. ... ;)
From: Steven Vachon
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Steven Vachon <;prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>;
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
> >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> >; >
> > >
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
>; > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> >; >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >; > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> >; > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
>; > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
>; > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
>; > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the
>; >Control
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > >;
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-24 by tguitar

That's exactly the set-up I use... I can play any size venue with that little monster.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

That reminds me ... I've just uploaded a picture of my GSP-2101 / Mesa 20/20 setup. This setup handles any gig I play. It's easy to mic the two Celestion cabs for larger venues where essentially my setup becomes my stage monitor.
----- Original Message -----
From: tguitar
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Get a Mesa 20/20 and you'll never miss the 400...

Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-24 by Hari Floura

MM, Just spotted a Peavey 50/50 on e-bay for $350 




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From: M M <strategy400@...>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:00:42 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Just threw the 400 on the scale. 68.9 lbs. with the 4 space rack covering it. 
 
Feels a lot heavier though.

 "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



 

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To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:49:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
DOH!! Sorry should have said 60/60 was looking at the 50/50, but got a great 
deal on the 60/60 on Craigs list  ($200 and plus just over a $100 to re-tube 
it). That sucker isn't to light either, just shy of 27lbs!




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From: M M <strategy400@ hotmail.com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:03:37 PM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels 
like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs 
only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it 
to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light). 

 
2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll".


 
 "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."



 

________________________________
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
From: scorpio65@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite 
Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! 


I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my 
signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve 
poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab 
models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but 
it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true 
valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone 
is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). 
 I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really 
are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our 
toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! 

I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily 
for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit 
more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so 
for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf.....  

Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry. 
... ;)


________________________________
From: Steven Vachon <prometh@gmail. com>
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

  
Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already 
bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst 
thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack 
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and 
>
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of 

> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now 
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge 
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> 
> Â  
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will 

> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't 
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand 

> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to 
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic 
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. 
> 
> 
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a 
>power 
>
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the 
>
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital 
>
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing 
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out 
>
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live 
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the 
>takes). 
>
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm 
>
> simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep 
>breath 
>
> >and 
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts 
> > 
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what 
>MM 
>
> 
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring 
>your 
>
> 
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on 
>and 
>
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is 
>they 
>
> 
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring 
>them 
>
> 
> > into or out of your fx chain. 
> > 
> > 
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put 
> >them 
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi 
>
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I 
>am 
>
> 
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in 
>the 
>
> 
> > right direction there if you need it.
> > 
> > Hope that helps  clarify things 
> > 
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the 
>
> >power 
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more 
>accomplished 
>
> 
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set 
up.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > Commencing facepalm..
> >  
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > 
> >   
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the 
> >ability 
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, 
>I'm 
>
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > 
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and 
>acoustic 
>
> 
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those 
> >pedals 
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a 
> >midi 
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can 
>use 
>
> 
> > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > 
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > 
> > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's 
>available, 
>
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a 
>rack 
>
> 
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the 
> >Behringer 
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > 
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's 
>
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > 
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Would this work?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? 
> country=us&lang=en
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI 
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, 
>
> >and 
> >
> > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp 
> >switching 
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I 

> >can 
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet 
>while 
>
> 
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a 
> >single 
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on 
>in 
>
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, 
>with 
>
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a 

> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on 
> >Musicians 
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control 
> >several 
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may 
>
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 
>which 
>
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). 
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set 
>
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of 
> >poorly 
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. 

> >I've 
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so 
>the 
>
> 
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was 

> > >wrong?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your 
> >overdrive 
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the 
> >Control 
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru 
>to 
>
> >
> > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the 
> >sysex 
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck 
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > 
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-07-24 by Steven Vachon

Filip, what about if a button on the Control One is bound to a parameter change; what message will be sent to a unit such as the WOBO?

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa <goddardfil@...> wrote:
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>
> Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's channels or
> remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. You cannot
> connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both bypassing effects
> and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs and
> outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects.
> 
> In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program number -
> program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need different PC
> messages in a single bank then you would have to put different programs into
> single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can set it to
> react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - 10-19, etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Filip
> 
> 2010/7/22 M M <strategy400@...>
> 
> >
> >
> > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.
> >
> >
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > From: prometh@...
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
> >
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> >
> >  Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but
> > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!
> >
> > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really
> > worth the extra dough?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" <goddardfil@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi again.
> > >
> > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Filip
> > >
> > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
> > >
> > > Steven Vachon pisze:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > > > deep breath and
> > > > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > > > is what MM
> > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > > > bring your
> > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > > > them on and
> > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > > > That is they
> > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > > > bring them
> > > > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > > > either put them
> > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > > > the midi
> > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > > > that. I am
> > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > > > you in the
> > > > > right direction there if you need it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > > > >
> > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > > > for the power
> > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > > > accomplished
> > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > > > this set up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > > > the ability
> > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > > > Besides, I'm
> > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > > > and acoustic
> > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > > > those pedals
> > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > > > You can use
> > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > > > available,
> > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > > > to a rack
> > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > > > the Behringer
> > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > > > switch? It's
> > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would this work?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > > > country=us&lang=en
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > > > MIDI
> > > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > > > what I need, and
> > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > > > amp switching
> > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > > > out so I can
> > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > > > feet while
> > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > > > do a single
> > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > > > always on in
> > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > > > that, with
> > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > > > this with a
> > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
> > > > on Musicians
> > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > > > control several
> > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > > > pedal, you may
> > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > > > 1010 which
> > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > > > able to set
> > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > > > because of poorly
> > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@>
> > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > pedals?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > > > exists. I've
> > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > > > yet, so the
> > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > > > that was
> > > > > >wrong?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > > > your overdrive
> > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > > > on the Control
> > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > > > MIDI-Thru to
> > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > > > understand the sysex
> > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > > > much luck
> > > > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

2010-08-01 by Steven Vachon

What do you guys think of the G-Lab M4L? It seems to be cheaper than the WOBO 4.


--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
>
> Filip, what about if a button on the Control One is bound to a parameter change; what message will be sent to a unit such as the WOBO?
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa goddardfil@ wrote:
> >
> > Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's channels or
> > remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. You cannot
> > connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both bypassing effects
> > and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs and
> > outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects.
> >
> > In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program number -
> > program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need different PC
> > messages in a single bank then you would have to put different programs into
> > single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can set it to
> > react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - 10-19, etc.
> >;
> > Cheers,
> > Filip
> >
> > 2010/7/22 M M strategy400@
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
> > >
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but
> > > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!
> > >
> > > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really
> > > worth the extra dough?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again.
> > >; >
> > > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> > > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> > > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> > > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> > > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> > > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> > > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> > > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> > > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> > > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Filip
> > > >
> > > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
> > > >
> >; > > Steven Vachon pisze:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> > > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > > > > deep breath and
> > > > > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > > > > is what MM
> > > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > > > > bring your
> > > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > > > > them on and
> > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > > > > That is they
> > > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > > > > bring them
> > > > > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > > > > either put them
> > > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > > > > the midi
> > > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > > > > that. I am
> > > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > > > > you in the
> > > > > > right direction there if you need it.
> >; > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > > > > for the power
> > > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > > > > accomplished
> > > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > > > > this set up.
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > >; > > Â
> > > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > > > > the ability
> > > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > > > > Besides, I'm
> > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > > > > and acoustic
> > > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > > > > those pedals
> > > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > > > > You can use
> >; > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >; "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > > > > available,
> > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > > > > to a rack
> > > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > > > > the Behringer
> > > >; > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > > > > switch? It's
> > > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
>; > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would this work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > > > > country=us&lang=en
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > > > > MIDI
> > >; > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > > > > what I need, and
> > > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >; > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > > > > amp switching
> > > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > > > > out so I can
> > > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > > > > feet while
> > > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > > > > do a single
> > > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > > > > always on in
> > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > >; > > that, with
> > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > > > >; this with a
> > > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> >; > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > > > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
> > > > > on Musicians
> >; > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > > > > control several
> > > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > > > > pedal, you may
> > > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > > > > 1010 which
> > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > > > > able to set
>; > > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > > > > because of poorly
> >; > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > > > > exists. I've
> > > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > > > > yet, so the
> > > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > > > > that was
> > > > > > >wrong?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > > > > your overdrive
> > > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >;
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > >; > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > > > > on the Control
> > > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > > > > MIDI-Thru to
> > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > > > > understand the sysex
> > > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > > > > much luck
> > > > > > >investigating this myself.
> > >; > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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