--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
>
> Filip, what about if a button on the Control One is bound to a parameter change; what message will be sent to a unit such as the WOBO?
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Filip Wyrwa goddardfil@ wrote:
> >
> > Nobels MS4 unit isn't a looper - it can be used to switch amp's channels or
> > remote control over the units that has 1/4" remote control jack. You cannot
> > connect to it effects and bypass them... WOBO allows both bypassing effects
> > and channel switching, it has three sections with their own inputs and
> > outputs that allows free routing of the connected effects.
> >
> > In GSP2101 Program Change sent are set and refer to the program number -
> > program 1-PC0, program 10-PC9, program 99-PC98. If you need different PC
> > messages in a single bank then you would have to put different programs into
> > single bank. But if you have programmable MIDI device then you can set it to
> > react to the received PC message in bank 1 - from 0-9, bank 2 - 10-19, etc.
> >;
> > Cheers,
> > Filip
> >
> > 2010/7/22 M M strategy400@
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000
> > >
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but
> > > instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!
> > >
> > > Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really
> > > worth the extra dough?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again.
> > >; >
> > > > Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> > > > - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> > > > you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> > > > to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> > > > you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> > > > the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> > > > LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> > > > need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> > > > need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> > > > automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Filip
> > > >
> > > > www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
> > > >
> >; > > Steven Vachon pisze:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > > > > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > > > > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > > > > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > > > > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > > > > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> > > > > same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > > > > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > > > > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > > > > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > > > > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > > > > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > > > > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > > > > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > > > > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > > > > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > > > > deep breath and
> > > > > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > > > > is what MM
> > > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > > > > bring your
> > > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > > > > them on and
> > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > > > > That is they
> > > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > > > > bring them
> > > > > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > > > > either put them
> > > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > > > > the midi
> > > > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > > > > that. I am
> > > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > > > > you in the
> > > > > > right direction there if you need it.
> >; > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > > > > for the power
> > > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > > > > accomplished
> > > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > > > > this set up.
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > >; > > Â
> > > > > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > > > > the ability
> > > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > > > > Besides, I'm
> > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > > > > and acoustic
> > > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > > > > those pedals
> > > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > > > > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > > > > You can use
> >; > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >; "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >; > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > > > > available,
> > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > > > > to a rack
> > > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > > > > the Behringer
> > > >; > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > > > > switch? It's
> > > > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
>; > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would this work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > > > > country=us&lang=en
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > > > > MIDI
> > >; > > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > > > > what I need, and
> > > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >; > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > > > > amp switching
> > > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > > > > out so I can
> > > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > > > > feet while
> > > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > > > > do a single
> > > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > > > > always on in
> > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > >; > > that, with
> > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > > > >; this with a
> > > > > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> >; > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > > > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
> > > > > on Musicians
> >; > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > > > > control several
> > > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > > > > pedal, you may
> > > > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > > > > 1010 which
> > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > > > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > > > > able to set
>; > > > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > > > > because of poorly
> >; > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > > pedals?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > > > > exists. I've
> > > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > > > > yet, so the
> > > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > > > > that was
> > > > > > >wrong?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > > > > your overdrive
> > > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >;
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > >; > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > > > > on the Control
> > > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > > > > MIDI-Thru to
> > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > > > > understand the sysex
> > > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > > > > much luck
> > > > > > >investigating this myself.
> > >; > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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