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Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision.

Plus, digital is "simulation" :P

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura .> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack
> (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and
> being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of
> the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now
> struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge
> emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11Â Rack!Â
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM
> Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>
> Â
> Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will
> need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't
> needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand
> GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to
> disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic
> simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa.
>
>
> My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power
> amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the
> FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital
> effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing
> detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out
> to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes).
> However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm
>; simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
>
>
>
> --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura wrote:
> >
> > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath
> >and
> >
> > count to 10 , and think nice thoughtsÂÂ
> >
> > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM
>
> > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your
>
> > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and
> >
> > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they
>
> > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them
>
> > into or out of your fx chain.
> >
> >
> > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put
> >them
> >
> > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi
> > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am
>
> > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the
>
> > right direction there if you need it.
> >
> > Hope that helps  clarify things
> >
> > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the
>; >power
> >
> > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished
>
> > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up.
>; >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M M strategy400@ ...
> >; To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Commencing facepalm..
> > ÂÂ
> >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> >
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>; > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the
> >ability
> >
> > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm
> >
> > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic
>
> > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those
> >pedals
> >
> > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a
> >midi
> >
> > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use
>
>; > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > >
> > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > >
> >; > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available,
> >
> > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack
>
> > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the
> >Behringer
> >
> > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's
> > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > >
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
>; > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would this work?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> country=us&lang=en
>; > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI
> > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need,
> >and
> >
> >; >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp
> >switching
> >
> > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I
> >can
> >
> > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while
>
> > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a
> >single
> >
> > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > >
> >; > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in
> >
> > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with
> >
> > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a
> > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >; > >
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on
> >Musicians
> >
> > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control
> >several
> >
> > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may
> > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which
> >
> > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set
> > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of
> >poorly
> >
> > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >; > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >;
> > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists.
> >I've
> >
> > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the
>
> > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was
> > >wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your
> >overdrive
> >
> > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >; > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > >; > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the
> >Control
> >
> > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to
> >
> > >;bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the
> >sysex
> >
> > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck
> > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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