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Nah... you can use the cheaper one if you use a cable stretcher.

"Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."

To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
From: prometh@...
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:39:55 +0000

Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?

Hmm, so to clarify, 0-127 messages do not refer to GSP-2101 programs, but instead button numbers. If so, that's great news!

Also, the WOBO Looper4 costs $100 more than the Nobels MS-4. Is it really worth the extra dough?

Thanks

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." wrote:
>
> Hi again.
>
> Control One via GSP 2101 sends MIDI Program Change messages (from 0-127
> - footswitch no.1-0, 2-1, etc.). WOBO MIDI Looper or MIDI Looper4 (if
> you want to control more effects than one/set of them) can be programmed
> to act to a certain PC message according to your need. So for e.g. if
> you press footswitch no.5 on Control One then at the MIDI Thru output of
> the GSP2101 there will be Program Change message no. 4. On MIDI Looper's
> LED display will be shown received Program Change number and all you
> need to do is simply to set the state of the loops according to what you
> need when you engage this particular footswitch on Control One. It is
> automatically stored in MIDI Looper's memory.
>
> Cheers,
> Filip
>
> www.youtube.com/twelvemoonsofficial
>
> Steven Vachon pisze:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all
> > pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them
> > when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, *will such
> > a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 /parameter/ toggles*? I'd like for
> > /one/ button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass
> > my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the
> >; same time. And, of course, vice versa.
> >
> >
> > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out
> > to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and
> > from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation
> > into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed
> > to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the
> > GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house
> > mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live
> > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all
> > the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor
> > /finished/ an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance.
> >
> >
> > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there,
> > deep breath and
> > > count to 10Â , and think nice thoughtsÂ
> > >
> > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for,
> > is what MM
> > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to
> > bring your
> > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch
> > them on and
> > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered.
> > That is they
> > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can
> > bring them
>; > > into or out of your fx chain.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could
> > either put them
> > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via
> > the midi
> > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried
> > that. I am
> > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point
> > you in the
> > > right direction there if you need it.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps  clarify things
> > >
> > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop
> > for the power
> > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more
> > accomplished
> > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by
> > this set up.
> > >
> > >;
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: M M strategy400@
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Commencing facepalm..
> > > Â
> > > Â "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: prometh@gmail. com
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000
> > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > >
> > > Â
> > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need
> > the ability
> > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed.
> > Besides, I'm
> > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics.
> > >
> > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >; > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal
> > and acoustic
> > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on
> > those pedals
> > > >other than your big toe on the pedal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects
> > loop(s)(er), not a midi
> > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment.
> > You can use
> > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop).
> > > >;
> > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: prometh@
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000
> > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3
> > > >
> > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's
> > available,
> > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals
> > to a rack
> > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so
> > the Behringer
> > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy
> > > >
> > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to
> > switch? It's
> > >; >still not clear what interfaces you are working with.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > From: prometh@
> > > >; > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >; > Would this work?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php?
> > country=us&lang=en
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" wrote:
> > > > > >;
> > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop)
> > MIDI
> > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than
> > what I need, and
> > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use.
>; > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's
> > amp switching
> > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and
> > out so I can
> > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my
> > feet while
> > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can
> > do a single
> > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is
> > always on in
> > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for
> > that, with
> >; > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do
> > this with a
> > > >flanger pedal with decent results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > From: scorpio65@
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc
> > pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >; > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search
>; > on Musicians
> > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can
> > control several
> > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one
> > pedal, you may
> > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB
> > 1010 which
> > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost).
> > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be
> > able to set
> > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating
> > because of poorly
> > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >; > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon
> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even
> > exists. I've
> > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself
> > yet, so the
> > > >manual kinda goes over my head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess
> > that was
> > > >wrong?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows
> > your overdrive
> > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely."
> > > > > > > >
> > >; > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > > > > > From: prometh@
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >; > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button
> > on the Control
> > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in
> > MIDI-Thru to
> > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to
> > understand the sysex
> > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had
> > much luck
> > > >investigating this myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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