Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a power amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the takes). However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote: > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep breath >and > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what MM > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring your > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on and > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is they > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring them > into or out of your fx chain. > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put >them > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I am > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in the > right direction there if you need it. > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the >power > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more accomplished > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: M M strategy400@ ... > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Commencing facepalm.. >  >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > >  > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > From: prometh@gmail. com > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the >ability > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, I'm > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and acoustic > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those >pedals > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a >midi > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can use > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's available, > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a rack > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the >Behringer > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? country=us&lang=en > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, >and > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp >switching > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I >can > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet while > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a >single > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on in > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, with > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on >Musicians > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control >several > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 which > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of >poorly > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. >I've > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so the > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your >overdrive > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the >Control > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru to > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the >sysex > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from > > >your inbox. > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
2010-07-22 by Hari Floura