MM, Just spotted a Peavey 50/50 on e-bay for $350 ________________________________ From: M M <strategy400@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:00:42 PM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Just threw the 400 on the scale. 68.9 lbs. with the 4 space rack covering it. Feels a lot heavier though. "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: scorpio65@yahoo. com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:49:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? DOH!! Sorry should have said 60/60 was looking at the 50/50, but got a great deal on the 60/60 on Craigs list ($200 and plus just over a $100 to re-tube it). That sucker isn't to light either, just shy of 27lbs! ________________________________ From: M M <strategy400@ hotmail.com> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:03:37 PM Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? I'd like to get a Peavey 50/50. My Mesa Strategy 400 is way too heavy (feels like 1000 lbs.). But really I only use the 400 when I'm running 2 stacks (gigs only) so then its good to have. Otherwise I bring my 2101 only and just XLR it to whatever P.A. is available (travelling light). 2 stacks is a lot but it just says "rock and roll". "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." ________________________________ To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com From: scorpio65@yahoo. com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Ahh you luddites, but then technology is not for wimps, to quote my favourite Dilbert t-shirt! :) LOL!! I must admit, I am also not completely sold on 'just digital simulation', my signal chain is 11 rack to 15 band Berhinger stereo eq to a Peavy 50/50 valve poweramp which feeds two BR12 Yamaha PA speakers or a 4x10 if switch of the cab models. I originally started by using my Marshall 80/80 valvestate poweramp, but it did not cut it, as the tone was missing that something special only a true valve amp seems to bring to the party! Once I added the valve power amp the tone is the best I've ever got. (I just need to play as good as the tone now, LOL!). I'm also finding I am using the 4x10 less and less, as the cab models really are very good! Of course all of this overkill for my 'man cave', but we need our toys (you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands') !!! I was using the GSP 2101 in the effects loop of the 11 Rack (primarily for stereo delay/reverb and pitch shift effects) but it was all getting a bit more complicated then I wanted (spending more time programing then playing), so for now the GSP2101 and my Marshall 80/80 are sitting on the shelf..... Still, I am now seriously way off topic, erhmm...yeah way of topic......sorry. ... ;) ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@gmail. com> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 12:01:01 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? Cool. I'm not going with the new digital stuff that's out now cuz I already bought everyhting else and I'd rather stick with the real thing, cuz the worst thing for me would be to find out years later that I made the wrong decision. Plus, digital is "simulation" :P --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@.. .> wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification Steve. I recently purchased a 11 Rack > (Amp/effects simulator and recording interface that continually amazes me!) and > > being a newer device it offers all the functions that you are squeezing out of > the GSP-2101. I purchased the Berhinger FB1010 to control that unit. I am now > struggling with the dilemma, do I keep my GSP 2101 (to which I have a huge > emotional attachment) or do I simplify down to just the 11 Rack! > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 12:41:57 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > >  > Thanks for explaining more of what MM meant. I understand that all pedals will > need to remain on and the switcher would just bypass them when they aren't > needed; but what I really do not know is, will such a MIDI switcher understand > GSP-2101 parameter toggles? I'd like for one button on the Control One to > disable GSP-2101 distortion, bypass my overdrive pedal and engage my acoustic > simulator pedal all at the same time. And, of course, vice versa. > > > My overdrive pedal is placed before my GSP-2101. The FX loop goes out to a >power > > amp, an isocab with 2 mics hooked up to a multitrack and from there back to the > > FX return. This brings power tube saturation into the mix and preserves digital > > effects for recording (as opposed to mic'ing the final output and losing > detail). From there, the GSP-2101 outputs to the multitrack and from there, out > > to the house mixer and to solid state power for monitors and cabs. My live > recordings can be achieved the same as a studio recording (minus all the >takes). > > However, to this day, I have not yet done a live gig nor finished an album; I'm > > simply a hobbyist who's planning in advance. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, Hari Floura <scorpio65@ .> wrote: > > > > Now, now, MM some of us just take a little longer to get there, deep >breath > > >and > > > > count to 10 , and think nice thoughts > > > > Steve the Midi looper seems to be the solution you are looking for, is what >MM > > > > is trying to say  . This should meet your needs by allowing you to bring >your > > > > pedals in and out via midi. However, you will not be able to switch them on >and > > > > > off individually as they have no 'automated' way to be triggered. That is >they > > > > will have to left in the 'on position' and using the looper you can bring >them > > > > into or out of your fx chain. > > > > > > As far as where in your chain you insert them, I guess you could either put > >them > > > > in the existing 2101 fx loop or your amp fx loop (if it has one) via the midi > > > looper or alternatively before the 2101 although I have never tried that. I >am > > > > sure the more experienced members of the forum may be able to point you in >the > > > > right direction there if you need it. > > > > Hope that helps  clarify things > > > > Out of pure interest, can you elaborate why you using your fx loop for the > > >power > > > > amp and mikes? I'm strictly a hobby guitarist (or, as as the more >accomplished > > > > musicians might say more money then talent ) and am intrigued by this set up. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: M M strategy400@ ... > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:48:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > Commencing facepalm.. > >  > >  "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > From: prometh@gmail. com > > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:26:54 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > >  > > The whole point is to not have to use my foot more than once. I need the > >ability > > > > to change patches and have the appropriate pedal engaged/bypassed. Besides, >I'm > > > > > already using the 2101's fx loop for my power amp and mics. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Now that we know what we are dealing with (the zakk wylde pedal and >acoustic > > > > >simulator?), I don't see any other type of 'switching' interface on those > >pedals > > > > >other than your big toe on the pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably looking for a midi controlled effects loop(s)(er), not a > >midi > > > > >controlled switcher (as per Filip's post). > > > > > > > > > > > > A midi effects loop system would probably be a great investment. You can >use > > > > >the 2101's built in effects loop (only one loop). > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:58:45 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GSP2101, Control One, MXR ZW44, Boss AC3 > > > > > > The Nobels MIDI switcher is rather large, but if that's all that's >available, > > > > > >then I guess I'm stuck with that and will have to move these pedals to a >rack > > > > >shelf. I only have so much room on my Furman SBP-8C pedalboard, so the > >Behringer > > > > >won't fit along with my wah and whammy > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give a make and model of the pedal you are trying to switch? It's > > > >still not clear what interfaces you are working with. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this work? > > > > > > > > http://www.lehle. com/products/ MidiJunction/ index.php? > country=us&lang=en > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys happen to know of a 1-channel (or single loop) MIDI > > >switcher? All the ones I'm finding are much more elaborate than what I need, > > >and > > > > >as a result cost a lot more than I'm willing to spend > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll recommend an FCB1010 too. It's what I use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have an A/B pedal that can be switched via the FCB's amp > >switching > > > > >capabilities and use it to bring different wireless systems in and out so I > >can > > > > >switch between my guitar's dual jacks (piezo and magnetic) with my feet >while > > > > >simultaneously changing midi programs on my 2101. In this way I can do a > >single > > > > >pedal press to seamlessly switch from distorted to acoustic sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are just trying to bring a distortion pedal that is always on >in > > > > > >and out of the signal chain you can use the 2101's effects loop for that, >with > > > > > >some minor configuration changes to the programs using it. I do this with a > > >flanger pedal with decent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > From: scorpio65@ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:37:45 -0700 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you need is a Midi Switcher, suggest you do do a search on > >Musicians > > > > >Friend or Sam Ash site for more info. Typical Midi Switchers can control > >several > > > > >devices and can be pricey. Since you only need to control one pedal, you may > > > >want to consider replacing the foot controller with a Behringer FCB 1010 >which > > > > > >has this option already integrated into it (and is fairly low cost). > > >Unfortunately you will need to acquaint yourself with MIDI to be able to set > > > >everything up. Speaking from experience it can be frustrating because of > >poorly > > > > >written manuals, but not impossible (thanks to google :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 8:29:53 AM > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already stated that I don't know if such an interface even exists. > >I've > > > > >read through the manual, but I don't fully understand MIDI itself yet, so >the > > > > >manual kinda goes over my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > Figured I'd ask here if anyone's done this yet, but I guess that was > > >wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You failed to describe the type of interface that allows your > >overdrive > > > > >pedal to be bypass/engage( d). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the manual for the 2101 is quite good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com > > > > > > > From: prometh@ > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:06:16 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, when I switch off the distortion via a button on the > >Control > > > > >One, I'd like for some kind of device connected to the GSP2101 in MIDI-Thru >to > > > > > >bypass/engage my overdrive pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, does such a device exist? Would it be able to understand the > >sysex > > > > >messages? Since I'm not entirely educated on MIDI, I haven't had much luck > > >investigating this myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more >from > > > > > >your inbox. > > > > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID28326: > > >:T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: Use GSP2101 to control Boss/etc pedals?
2010-07-24 by Hari Floura