I appreciate the helpful responses but here is the deal of what happened. Got this thing a couple of weeks ago from some guy that had it outside waiting for trash but saw me picking it up and decided it was somehow worth $20. Fine. Spent the next week cleaning a literal rat nest out of it and cleaning all of the tiny bubble cups to the buttons and every single part of the keybed. Got all keys and buttons working and display was working fine just all patches said K5Single. Fine I will do a reload. Nope turns out two traces on midi in had been eaten by something but I soldered those back together. BTW there are three wires soldered randomly between chips on both motherboards (not me) so it probably had issues at one point. With midi in fixed, I went onto loading up patches thru sysex with no luck across all possible software platforms as noted in previous post and like so many others. It is a 1.0 rom so I am pretty sure that was the issue. Got the system battery swapped out and now it has gone crazy. I am going to try a different battery tonight and will report back tomorrow, but am indeed pretty through with the unit. I did not like the signal flow and it was just different than I thought. I have a PH50 that I love anyway, so will stick with that :) Thanks to all the hopefuls and helpfuls :)