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Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-07-31 by mskellam84

Hello All,

New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.

Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 

The module is running update 1.2

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
-Matt

Re: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-07-31 by Eric Friedly

Sounds like a bad ic somewhere to me. If your electronic savvy, you could open her up and look for something blown. Or, get a service manual & track the problem with a multimeter. I had to do that with mine. Blown opamp from someone plugging a sound source into the hold jack. I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one. Other than that, take it in to a qualified repair tech. Good luck to you.



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 From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@...>
To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
 

  
Hello All,

New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.

Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 

The module is running update 1.2

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
-Matt

Re: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-07-31 by bill bigrig

I have an increment dial problem too. When I turn it, the display number jumps around, or doesn't dhange at all. I replaced what I thought were the relevent ICs, but I guess I didn't do it properly. A very nice fellow sent me the relevant part of hthe schematic, but it is almost impossible to read. Locating one is not easy.
Rig

Re: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-07-31 by tomlinson6050@roadrunner.com

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Sounds like the rotary encoder behind the data wheel has broken inside and is causing a short in the +5 volt line when you move it. These things have a life-span. Should be easy to find a replacement from Mouser or other electronic part source.
Bill
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---- Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@yahoo.com> wrote: 

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Sounds like a bad ic somewhere to me. If your electronic savvy, you could open her up and look for something blown. Or, get a service manual & track the problem with a multimeter. I had to do that with mine. Blown opamp from someone plugging a sound source into the hold jack. I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one. Other than that, take it in to a qualified repair tech. Good luck to you.



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 From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@...>
To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
 

  
Hello All,

New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.

Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 

The module is running update 1.2

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
-Matt

Re: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-07-31 by jammie

i would also say its the rotary encoder thats fualty sounds like its shorting to earth just replace the encoder 

should be able to get a generic type with same footprint
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  Sounds like the rotary encoder behind the data wheel has broken inside and is causing a short in the +5 volt line when you move it. These things have a life-span. Should be easy to find a replacement from Mouser or other electronic part source.
  Bill
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  ---- Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@...> wrote: 

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  Sounds like a bad ic somewhere to me. If your electronic savvy, you could open her up and look for something blown. Or, get a service manual & track the problem with a multimeter. I had to do that with mine. Blown opamp from someone plugging a sound source into the hold jack. I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one. Other than that, take it in to a qualified repair tech. Good luck to you.

  ________________________________
  From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@...>
  To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
  Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem


    
  Hello All,

  New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.

  Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module. The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 

  The module is running update 1.2

  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  Thanks,
  -Matt

Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-08-01 by somethingkillingyou

what googling? it's in the files section since May 7 2011, I did upload it!

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--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@...> wrote:
I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one.
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> 
> ________________________________
>  From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@...>
> To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
> Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
>  
> 
> Â  
> Hello All,
> 
> New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.
> 
> Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 
> 
> The module is running update 1.2
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> -Matt
>

Re: [k5synth] Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-08-01 by Eric Friedly

Cool. I had to get mine before you uploaded it. All the better for us K5ers!

 

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 From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: [k5synth] Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
  

 
   
 
what googling? it's in the files section since May 7 2011, I did upload it!

F.

--- In mailto:k5synth%40yahoogroups.com, Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@...> wrote:
I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one.
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> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@...>
> To: mailto:k5synth%40yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
> Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
> 
> 
> Â  
> Hello All,
> 
> New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.
> 
> Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 
> 
> The module is running update 1.2
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> -Matt
>

Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-08-01 by somethingkillingyou

that's bad, anyway I uploaded it as soon as I found it!

F.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@...> wrote:
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>
> Cool. I had to get mine before you uploaded it. All the better for us K5ers!
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:28 AM
> Subject: [k5synth] Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
>   
> 
>  
> Â   
>  
> what googling? it's in the files section since May 7 2011, I did upload it!
> 
> F.
> 
> --- In mailto:k5synth%40yahoogroups.com, Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@> wrote:
> I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@>
> > To: mailto:k5synth%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
> > Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.
> > 
> > Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 
> > 
> > The module is running update 1.2
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > -Matt
> >
>

Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem

2012-08-02 by jdearing17

To get a Kawai service manual, one just has to email them. They emailed me a PDF that looks much nicer than the one uploaded here. I'll upload it once I get to a computer.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou" <somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
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>
> that's bad, anyway I uploaded it as soon as I found it!
> 
> F.
> 
> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@> wrote:
> >
> > Cool. I had to get mine before you uploaded it. All the better for us K5ers!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@>
> > To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:28 AM
> > Subject: [k5synth] Re: Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
> >   
> > 
> >  
> > Â   
> >  
> > what googling? it's in the files section since May 7 2011, I did upload it!
> > 
> > F.
> > 
> > --- In mailto:k5synth%40yahoogroups.com, Eric Friedly <ejfriedly@> wrote:
> > I got my schematic from manual manor but a little googling could fetch a free one. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: mskellam84 <mattkellam@>
> > > To: mailto:k5synth%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 AM
> > > Subject: [k5synth] Increment Dial Power Reset Problem
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Hello All,
> > > 
> > > New to the group and am currently troubleshooting an issue I'm having with my newly-acquired K5m.
> > > 
> > > Whenever I turn the increment dial in any direction, it seems to reset the power on the whole module.  The screen goes blank and then the power is restored (back to initial startup screen. 
> > > 
> > > The module is running update 1.2
> > > 
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Matt
> > >
> >
>

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