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Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by mskellam84

Hello All,

So I'm having a tough time figuring out how to transfer the original patch libraries over to the K5m.  I am in OSX Snow Leopard and am wondering if this is even possible.  The librarian .jar file runs fine in OSX, I can select and open my "USB MIDI CABLE", but from there, I don't know how to initialize my K5m in the program - I just see the red icon stating there is no connection.  

I have checked the MIDI settings on the K5m and selected TRS=on RCV=on, TRS=1 RCV=1 OMNI=on PGM=SINGLE

Thank you for any help in advance

-Matt

Re: [k5synth] Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by Simon Kunath

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:35:12 -0000, you wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>So I'm having a tough time figuring out how to transfer the original patch libraries over to the K5m.  I am in OSX Snow Leopard and am wondering if this is even possible.  The librarian .jar file runs fine in OSX, I can select and open my "USB MIDI CABLE", but from there, I don't know how to initialize my K5m in the program - I just see the red icon stating there is no connection.  
>
>I have checked the MIDI settings on the K5m and selected TRS=on RCV=on, TRS=1 RCV=1 OMNI=on PGM=SINGLE

Do you have two midi cables attached, in & out? The editor needs
bi-directional communication with the K5


Simon

Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by mskellam84

Yes, I have both midi cabels connected - In the midi menu, I have to change the (exclusive) settings for TRS & RCV to "on" every time I power the k5m on.  Once I toggle these settings, do I have to save?  I have tried this but have no ext card - can I save this internally?

Also, is there something specific I need to do to initialize communication between the k5m and the librarian program?

Any step-by-step guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
-Matt

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Simon Kunath <sck@...> wrote:
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>
> On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:35:12 -0000, you wrote:
> 
> >Hello All,
> >
> >So I'm having a tough time figuring out how to transfer the original patch libraries over to the K5m.  I am in OSX Snow Leopard and am wondering if this is even possible.  The librarian .jar file runs fine in OSX, I can select and open my "USB MIDI CABLE", but from there, I don't know how to initialize my K5m in the program - I just see the red icon stating there is no connection.  
> >
> >I have checked the MIDI settings on the K5m and selected TRS=on RCV=on, TRS=1 RCV=1 OMNI=on PGM=SINGLE
> 
> Do you have two midi cables attached, in & out? The editor needs
> bi-directional communication with the K5
> 
> 
> Simon
>

Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by antdes45

Hello, 

Klaus' libraran may be Java, but MIDI support works off Windows only. He states linux so that would be possible. 

The easiest way would be to use sysex patches off any midi utility. 

Searching for "mac sysex" I get this as a first result :
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/

This is a generic SysEx sender. 
You could use the sounds-sysex.zip file and load a syx file to the K5. 
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/k5synth/files/Patch%20Library/

MIDI TRS and RCV turn off on reset, that is on purpose, but turn them on. You don't need the ext card, all it gives you is twice the amount of ram for sounds. There is a load button on K5, but has never seen any use, unless you are tranferring between two K5s using save and load. Just send the SYX file with the sysex utility on the right port, and this should load a full INT bank. All you have to do is to place the protect switch to off and enable exclusive TRS and RCV. 

Cheers,
Antoine

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "mskellam84" <mattkellam@...> wrote:
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>
> Yes, I have both midi cabels connected - In the midi menu, I have to change the (exclusive) settings for TRS & RCV to "on" every time I power the k5m on.  Once I toggle these settings, do I have to save?  I have tried this but have no ext card - can I save this internally?
> 
> Also, is there something specific I need to do to initialize communication between the k5m and the librarian program?
> 
> Any step-by-step guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> -Matt
> 
> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Simon Kunath <sck@> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:35:12 -0000, you wrote:
> > 
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >So I'm having a tough time figuring out how to transfer the original patch libraries over to the K5m.  I am in OSX Snow Leopard and am wondering if this is even possible.  The librarian .jar file runs fine in OSX, I can select and open my "USB MIDI CABLE", but from there, I don't know how to initialize my K5m in the program - I just see the red icon stating there is no connection.  
> > >
> > >I have checked the MIDI settings on the K5m and selected TRS=on RCV=on, TRS=1 RCV=1 OMNI=on PGM=SINGLE
> > 
> > Do you have two midi cables attached, in & out? The editor needs
> > bi-directional communication with the K5
> > 
> > 
> > Simon
> >
>

Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by antdes45

Oh, or in the files section, there are MIDI files. You can just play them on the USB MIDI cable. One waycommunication works for SysEx and MIDI. Until a proper librarian is found, SysEx and MIDI files can do the job of sending banks on the K5. 

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "antdes45" <antdes45@...> wrote:
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>
> Hello, 
> 
> Klaus' libraran may be Java, but MIDI support works off Windows only. He states linux so that would be possible. 
> 
> The easiest way would be to use sysex patches off any midi utility. 
> 
> Searching for "mac sysex" I get this as a first result :
> http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/
> 
> This is a generic SysEx sender. 
> You could use the sounds-sysex.zip file and load a syx file to the K5. 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/k5synth/files/Patch%20Library/
> 
> MIDI TRS and RCV turn off on reset, that is on purpose, but turn them on. You don't need the ext card, all it gives you is twice the amount of ram for sounds. There is a load button on K5, but has never seen any use, unless you are tranferring between two K5s using save and load. Just send the SYX file with the sysex utility on the right port, and this should load a full INT bank. All you have to do is to place the protect switch to off and enable exclusive TRS and RCV. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Antoine
> 
> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "mskellam84" <mattkellam@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I have both midi cabels connected - In the midi menu, I have to change the (exclusive) settings for TRS & RCV to "on" every time I power the k5m on.  Once I toggle these settings, do I have to save?  I have tried this but have no ext card - can I save this internally?
> > 
> > Also, is there something specific I need to do to initialize communication between the k5m and the librarian program?
> > 
> > Any step-by-step guidance would be greatly appreciated!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > -Matt
> > 
> > --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Simon Kunath <sck@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:35:12 -0000, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Hello All,
> > > >
> > > >So I'm having a tough time figuring out how to transfer the original patch libraries over to the K5m.  I am in OSX Snow Leopard and am wondering if this is even possible.  The librarian .jar file runs fine in OSX, I can select and open my "USB MIDI CABLE", but from there, I don't know how to initialize my K5m in the program - I just see the red icon stating there is no connection.  
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the MIDI settings on the K5m and selected TRS=on RCV=on, TRS=1 RCV=1 OMNI=on PGM=SINGLE
> > > 
> > > Do you have two midi cables attached, in & out? The editor needs
> > > bi-directional communication with the K5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Simon
> > >
> >
>

Re: [k5synth] Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by Alvaro Correa

Matt ... maybe my idea it's a lot more complicated but ... don't you consider to use de Dr. T's editor software? (you have to run it over an Atari ST simulatros, as Steem, or etc) ... I think is the best way to edit and send/receive patches between a PC and the K5 ...

best wishes, Alvaro.-
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On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, antdes45 <antdes45@...> wrote:

Re: [k5synth] Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by Antoine Deschênes

STeem doesn't run on MacOS though, that's the problem, you end up installing Windows for any easy solution. Maybe SoundDiver or Logic though, since eMagic was bought by Apple a while ago.

-- Antoine Deschênes
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2012/8/2 Alvaro Correa <correalicio@...>


Matt ... maybe my idea it's a lot more complicated but ... don't you consider to use de Dr. T's editor software? (you have to run it over an Atari ST simulatros, as Steem, or etc) ... I think is the best way to edit and send/receive patches between a PC and the K5 ...

best wishes, Alvaro.-

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, antdes45 <antdes45@yahoo.ca> wrote:




Re: [k5synth] Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-02 by Antoine Deschênes

OK, hello again everyone,

so for Atari ST emulation with bidirectional MIDI, you need Windows with STeem, Linux with Hatari or MacOS 8.0 for PowerST.

NoSTalgia emulator for OS X Intel only has support for MIDI OUT but no input. http://users.skynet.be/sky39147/

MIDI Quest seems to be the only librarian supporting MacOS X. But then you would have to see how it works for you. On Windows, it's nothing more than broken software.

On another note, I've got MIDI in/out working with a special version of DOSbox from their forum on Windows 7 x64. I haven't tried connecting a K5 to my computer so far, but MIDI works and Overtone runs, so we'll probably have another editor we can use on new PCs.

Cheers
-- Antoine Deschênes
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2012/8/2 Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@...>
STeem doesn't run on MacOS though, that's the problem, you end up installing Windows for any easy solution. Maybe SoundDiver or Logic though, since eMagic was bought by Apple a while ago.

-- Antoine Deschênes



2012/8/2 Alvaro Correa <correalicio@...m>


Matt ... maybe my idea it's a lot more complicated but ... don't you consider to use de Dr. T's editor software? (you have to run it over an Atari ST simulatros, as Steem, or etc) ... I think is the best way to edit and send/receive patches between a PC and the K5 ...

best wishes, Alvaro.-

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, antdes45 <antdes45@...> wrote:





Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-04 by mskellam84

Thank you all so much for your awesome support regarding my question about tranferring patches to the k5m.  

I found that the generic Sysex Librarian program for Mac OS worked perfectly for transferring patches to my K5m.  Upon enabling TRS & RCV on the K5m, my little usb midi cable light started to blink with activity, and that was my first sign of hope.  Then, just loading up the sysex sound files and pushing "play" instantly sent them all to my K5m and watched with joy as all of the patches/banks filled up on my K5m's display panel.  

Woo Hoo!

I now have a fully functional K5m to mess around with!

Thanks so much again,

-Matt

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> OK, hello again everyone,
> 
> so for Atari ST emulation with bidirectional MIDI, you need Windows with
> STeem, Linux with Hatari or MacOS 8.0 for PowerST.
> 
> NoSTalgia emulator for OS X Intel only has support for MIDI OUT but no
> input.  http://users.skynet.be/sky39147/
> 
> MIDI Quest seems to be the only librarian supporting MacOS X. But then you
> would have to see how it works for you. On Windows, it's nothing more than
> broken software.
> 
> On another note, I've got MIDI in/out working with a special version of
> DOSbox from their forum on Windows 7 x64. I haven't tried connecting a K5
> to my computer so far, but MIDI works and Overtone runs, so we'll probably
> have another editor we can use on new PCs.
> 
> Cheers
> -- Antoine Deschênes
> 
> 
> 2012/8/2 Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@...>
> 
> > STeem doesn't run on MacOS though, that's the problem, you end up
> > installing Windows for any easy solution. Maybe SoundDiver or Logic though,
> > since eMagic was bought by Apple a while ago.
> >
> > -- Antoine Deschênes
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/8/2 Alvaro Correa <correalicio@...>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Matt ... maybe my idea it's a lot more complicated but ... don't you
> >> consider to use de Dr. T's editor software? (you have to run it over an
> >> Atari ST simulatros, as Steem, or etc) ... I think is the best way to edit
> >> and send/receive patches between a PC and the K5 ...
> >>
> >> best wishes, Alvaro.-
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, antdes45 <antdes45@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [k5synth] Re: Transferring original patches from Mac (snow leopard) to K5m?

2012-08-04 by Alvaro Correa

Congrats Matt!!

Enjoy that wonderful machine. WBR Alvaro.-
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On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM, mskellam84 <mattkellam@...> wrote:
Thank you all so much for your awesome support regarding my question about tranferring patches to the k5m.

I found that the generic Sysex Librarian program for Mac OS worked perfectly for transferring patches to my K5m. Upon enabling TRS & RCV on the K5m, my little usb midi cable light started to blink with activity, and that was my first sign of hope. Then, just loading up the sysex sound files and pushing "play" instantly sent them all to my K5m and watched with joy as all of the patches/banks filled up on my K5m's display panel.

Woo Hoo!

I now have a fully functional K5m to mess around with!

Thanks so much again,

-Matt

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, Antoine Deschênes wrote:
>
> OK, hello again everyone,
>
> so for Atari ST emulation with bidirectional MIDI, you need Windows with
> STeem, Linux with Hatari or MacOS 8.0 for PowerST.
>
> NoSTalgia emulator for OS X Intel only has support for MIDI OUT but no
> input. http://users.skynet.be/sky39147/
>
> MIDI Quest seems to be the only librarian supporting MacOS X. But then you
> would have to see how it works for you. On Windows, it's nothing more than
> broken software.
>
> On another note, I've got MIDI in/out working with a special version of
> DOSbox from their forum on Windows 7 x64. I haven't tried connecting a K5
> to my computer so far, but MIDI works and Overtone runs, so we9;ll probably
> have another editor we can use on new PCs.
>
> Cheers
> -- Antoine Deschênes
>
>
> 2012/8/2 Antoine Deschênes
>
> > STeem doesn't run on MacOS though, that's the problem, you end up
> > installing Windows for any easy solution. Maybe SoundDiver or Logic though,
> > since eMagic was bought by Apple a while ago.
> >
> > -- Antoine Deschênes
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/8/2 Alvaro Correa
> >
> >;>
> >>
> >> Matt ... maybe my idea it's a lot more complicated but ... don't you
> >> consider to use de Dr. T's editor software? (you have to run it over an
> >;> Atari ST simulatros, as Steem, or etc) ... I think is the best way to edit
> >> and send/receive patches between a PC and the K5 ...
> >>
> >> best wishes, Alvaro.-
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, antdes45 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>




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