Kawai Synthesizers

Hi,

I'm new to the group and new to editing and downloading to a K4 and 
will apolagize in advance for my lack of knowledge.  If anyone can 
answer a few of my questions it would be a great help.

I have recently been using a midi interface (midisport) to edit 
presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing software and was 
wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on the K4?

I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the MidiQuest demo.

Will these tools be enough to do some editing in the K4?

Can I save the edits?

How do you get sysex files from the computer to the K4?

Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still available?

Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's not a bad word) sound 
out of the K4?

These are probably fairly basic questions for you veterans out there 
but a mystery to me.

I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it for my daughter to 
practice piano on but have since thought I could encorporate it into 
some the songs I'm playing with my band.

Thanks so much for any help you can provide.

Cheers,
Lew

I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any parameter in the K4, 
and works as a decent patch librarian.  You'll want to make sure that 
you set up the Midi section of the software to use the midi ins and 
outs that are connected to the K4, and set the channel number 
(usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send and receive sysex 
messages on.

I registered this shareware, I was so impressed with it.  I think 
registration used to be a requirement for editing the effect and drum 
parameters but last time I downloaded it, it seemed to be fully 
functional right off the bat without my having entered my 
registration key.  I'd suggest registering anyway, it's cheap, and 
it's good.

Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple as using the Get 
Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank commands from the menu.

--- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2" <l_husky@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I'm new to the group and new to editing and downloading to a K4 and 
> will apolagize in advance for my lack of knowledge.  If anyone can 
> answer a few of my questions it would be a great help.
> 
> I have recently been using a midi interface (midisport) to edit 
> presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing software and was 
> wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on the K4?
> 
> I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the MidiQuest demo.
> 
> Will these tools be enough to do some editing in the K4?
> 
> Can I save the edits?
> 
> How do you get sysex files from the computer to the K4?
> 
> Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still available?
> 
> Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's not a bad word) sound 
> out of the K4?
> 
> These are probably fairly basic questions for you veterans out 
there 
> but a mystery to me.
> 
> I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it for my daughter to 
> practice piano on but have since thought I could encorporate it 
into 

> some the songs I'm playing with my band.
> 
> Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lew
>

Hi,

I am more of a newbie than the first guy. I just bought a used K4 and
found out there are no presets nor any patches. Please tell me how to
load them to the K4. I downloaded the K4win software but do not know
how to connect from the K4 to the computer. What cables do I need? My
computer does not have a MIDI connection.

Thanks in advance.
yaros



--- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald Hawkins" <siregbert@...>
wrote:

>
> I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any parameter in the K4, 
> and works as a decent patch librarian.  You'll want to make sure that 
> you set up the Midi section of the software to use the midi ins and 
> outs that are connected to the K4, and set the channel number 
> (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send and receive sysex 
> messages on.
> 
> I registered this shareware, I was so impressed with it.  I think 
> registration used to be a requirement for editing the effect and drum 
> parameters but last time I downloaded it, it seemed to be fully 
> functional right off the bat without my having entered my 
> registration key.  I'd suggest registering anyway, it's cheap, and 
> it's good.
> 
> Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple as using the Get 
> Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank commands from the menu.
> 
> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2" <l_husky@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm new to the group and new to editing and downloading to a K4 and 
> > will apolagize in advance for my lack of knowledge.  If anyone can 
> > answer a few of my questions it would be a great help.
> > 
> > I have recently been using a midi interface (midisport) to edit 
> > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing software and was 
> > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on the K4?
> > 
> > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the MidiQuest demo.
> > 
> > Will these tools be enough to do some editing in the K4?
> > 
> > Can I save the edits?
> > 
> > How do you get sysex files from the computer to the K4?
> > 
> > Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still available?
> > 
> > Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's not a bad word) sound 
> > out of the K4?
> > 
> > These are probably fairly basic questions for you veterans out 
> there 
> > but a mystery to me.
> > 
> > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it for my daughter to 
> > practice piano on but have since thought I could encorporate it 
> into 
> > some the songs I'm playing with my band.
> > 
> > Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Lew
> >
>

Hi! There are two ways to load patches within K4 or K4R. Using MIDI CABLES between the keyboard and the 'joystick port' of your PC's soundcard or connecting your K4 to your notebook through a 'MIDI interface'. You said that 
'My PC does not MIDI connection' All computers has soundcard: a PCI soundcard or a soundcard included within the motherboard, as usual with the notebooks. The 'joystick port' of the PC's soundcard, by means of 'MIDI cables' (two cables) allows to transmit your K4 patches from the 'edit software' to the RAM memory of your K4 keyboard. No more is necessary. Additionally, there are suppliers who sell cards ( PCMCIA type ) with K4 patches. You must type 'K4 patches' to search. This cards must be inserted within the slot of the K4 panel
and follow the k4 manual instructions. K4 manual and 'original K4 patches' are supplied at 'KAWAI' USA site...Saludos.









> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "yaros227" <yaros227@...>
> To: kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of advice.
> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 02:42:33 -0000
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am more of a newbie than the first guy. I just bought a used K4 and
> found out there are no presets nor any patches. Please tell me how to
> load them to the K4. I downloaded the K4win software but do not know
> how to connect from the K4 to the computer. What cables do I need? My
> computer does not have a MIDI connection.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> yaros
> 
> 
> 
> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald Hawkins" <siregbert@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any parameter in the 
> > K4, and works as a decent patch librarian.  You'll want to make 
> > sure that you set up the Midi section of the software to use the 
> > midi ins and outs that are connected to the K4, and set the 
> > channel number (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send 
> > and receive sysex messages on.
> >
> > I registered this shareware, I was so impressed with it.  I think 
> > registration used to be a requirement for editing the effect and 
> > drum parameters but last time I downloaded it, it seemed to be 
> > fully functional right off the bat without my having entered my 
> > registration key.  I'd suggest registering anyway, it's cheap, 
> > and it's good.
> >
> > Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple as using the 
> > Get Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank commands from the 
> > menu.
> >
> > --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2" <l_husky@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > > I'm new to the group and new to editing and downloading to a 
> > K4 and > will apolagize in advance for my lack of knowledge.  If 
> > anyone can > answer a few of my questions it would be a great 
> > help.
> > > > I have recently been using a midi interface (midisport) to 
> > edit > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing software and 
> > was > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on the K4?
> > > > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the MidiQuest demo.
> > > > Will these tools be enough to do some editing in the K4?
> > > > Can I save the edits?
> > > > How do you get sysex files from the computer to the K4?
> > > > Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still available?
> > > > Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's not a bad word) 
> > sound > out of the K4?
> > > > These are probably fairly basic questions for you veterans 
> > out there > but a mystery to me.
> > > > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it for my 
> > daughter to > practice piano on but have since thought I could 
> > encorporate it into > some the songs I'm playing with my band.
> > > > Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > Lew
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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If your computer has USB ports (Most new ones do) you can get a midi to USB 
convertor. Much easier to use than the game port. My Dell did not come with 
a game port so I bought the midi USB and it works fine. Mine is made by M- 
Audio and has a USB connection on one end and two midi cables (in/out) on 
the other. Very simple to use. Good luck. If your K-4 has NO sounds at all, 
the battery might have died. It is a flat cell like a BIOS battery in a 
computer. On my K-1, the battery was soldered in place and I had to get a 
flat cell with leads tack welded on. DO NOT try to solder leads to the 
battery. They fry very quickly and might even explode!
Good luck.

Deny
Miami, Fl.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Alastor" <alastor32@...>
To: <kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:45 AM
Subject: RE: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of advice.


> Hi, yaros,
>  I'm a newbie and bought a used K4 too. Mine had patches in, but I could 
> use K4win. You should have to use a MIDI cable that has the IN-OUT plugs 
> in one end, and and joystick connector in the other one. This sounds 
> weird, but you need that connector to plug it in your joystick port of 
> your soundcard if you don\ufffdt have MIDI connector. Just remember to plug the 
> IN jack in the OUT intake of your K4 and the OUT jack in the K4 IN intake.
>  If you have any doubt, just follow this link to see how the cable looks.
>
>  http://www.pccables.com/05010.htm
>
>  I hope this helps. Enjoy!
>
>  Jose Angel
>
> yaros227 <yaros227@...> escribi\ufffd:
>          Hi,
>
> I am more of a newbie than the first guy. I just bought a used K4 and
> found out there are no presets nor any patches. Please tell me how to
> load them to the K4. I downloaded the K4win software but do not know
> how to connect from the K4 to the computer. What cables do I need? My
> computer does not have a MIDI connection.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> yaros
>
> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald Hawkins" <siregbert@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any parameter in the K4,
>> and works as a decent patch librarian. You'll want to make sure that
>> you set up the Midi section of the software to use the midi ins and
>> outs that are connected to the K4, and set the channel number
>> (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send and receive sysex
>> messages on.
>>
>> I registered this shareware, I was so impressed with it. I think
>> registration used to be a requirement for editing the effect and drum
>> parameters but last time I downloaded it, it seemed to be fully
>> functional right off the bat without my having entered my
>> registration key. I'd suggest registering anyway, it's cheap, and
>> it's good.
>>
>> Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple as using the Get
>> Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank commands from the menu.
>>
>> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2" <l_husky@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm new to the group and new to editing and downloading to a K4 and
>> > will apolagize in advance for my lack of knowledge. If anyone can
>> > answer a few of my questions it would be a great help.
>> >
>> > I have recently been using a midi interface (midisport) to edit
>> > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing software and was
>> > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on the K4?
>> >
>> > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the MidiQuest demo.
>> >
>> > Will these tools be enough to do some editing in the K4?
>> >
>> > Can I save the edits?
>> >
>> > How do you get sysex files from the computer to the K4?
>> >
>> > Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still available?
>> >
>> > Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's not a bad word) sound
>> > out of the K4?
>> >
>> > These are probably fairly basic questions for you veterans out
>> there
>> > but a mystery to me.
>> >
>> > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it for my daughter to
>> > practice piano on but have since thought I could encorporate it
>> into
>> > some the songs I'm playing with my band.
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Lew
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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>            <p><div>Hi, yaros,</div>  <div>I'm a newbie and bought a used 
> K4 too. Mine had patches in, but I could use K4win. You should have to use 
> a MIDI cable that has the IN-OUT plugs in one end, and and joystick 
> connector in the other one. This sounds weird, but you need that connector 
> to plug it in your joystick port of your soundcard if you don\ufffdt have MIDI 
> connector. Just remember to plug the IN jack in the OUT intake of your K4 
> and the OUT jack in the K4 IN intake.</div>  <div>If you have any doubt, 
> just follow this link to see how the cable looks.</div>  <div> </div> 
> <div><A 
> href="http://www.pccables.com/05010.htm">http://www.pccables<wbr>.com/05010.<wbr>htm</A></div> 
> <div> </div>  <div>I hope this helps. Enjoy!</div>  <div> </div> 
> <div>Jose Angel<BR><BR><B><I>yaros227 
> <yaros227@yahoo.<wbr>com></I></B> escribi\ufffd:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE 
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> first guy. I just bought a used K4 and<BR>found out there are no presets 
> nor any patches. Please tell me how to<BR>load them to the K4. I 
> downloaded the K4win software but do not know<BR>how to connect from the 
> K4 to the computer. What cables do I need? My<BR>computer does not have a 
> MIDI connection.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance.<BR>yaros<BR><BR>--- In <A 
> href="mailto:kawaisynths%40yahoogroups.com">kawaisynths@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>, 
> "Ronald Hawkins" <siregbert@.<WBR>..><BR>wrote:<BR>><BR>> I 
> use K4win it works like a charm to edit any parameter in the K4, <BR>> 
> and works as a decent patch librarian. You'll want to
> make sure that <BR>> you set up the Midi section of the software to use 
> the midi ins and <BR>> outs that are connected to the K4, and set the 
> channel number <BR>> (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send 
> and receive sysex <BR>> messages on.<BR>> <BR>> I registered this 
> shareware, I was so impressed with it. I think <BR>> registration used 
> to be a requirement for editing the effect and drum <BR>> parameters 
> but last time I downloaded it, it seemed to be fully <BR>> functional 
> right off the bat without my having entered my <BR>> registration key. 
> I'd suggest registering anyway, it's cheap, and <BR>> it's 
> good.<BR>> <BR>> Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple 
> as using the Get <BR>> Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank 
> commands from the menu.<BR>> <BR>> --- In <A 
> href="mailto:kawaisynths%40yahoogroups.com">kawaisynths@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>, 
> "ottiscan2" <l_husky@> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>>
> > Hi,<BR>> > <BR>> > I'm new to the group and new to 
> editing and downloading to a K4 and <BR>> > will apolagize in 
> advance for my lack of knowledge. If anyone can <BR>> > answer a few 
> of my questions it would be a great help.<BR>> > <BR>> > I 
> have recently been using a midi interface (midisport) to edit <BR>> 
> > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing software and was 
> <BR>> > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on the K4?<BR>> 
> > <BR>> > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the 
> MidiQuest demo.<BR>> > <BR>> > Will these tools be enough to 
> do some editing in the K4?<BR>> > <BR>> > Can I save the 
> edits?<BR>> > <BR>> > How do you get sysex files from the 
> computer to the K4?<BR>> > <BR>> > Are the memory cartridges 
> for the K4 still available?<BR>> > <BR>> > Is it possilbe to 
> get a Hammond (hope that's not a bad word) sound <BR>> > out
> of the K4?<BR>> > <BR>> > These are probably fairly basic 
> questions for you veterans out <BR>> there <BR>> > but a mystery 
> to me.<BR>> > <BR>> > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I 
> bought it for my daughter to <BR>> > practice piano on but have 
> since thought I could encorporate it <BR>> into <BR>> > some the 
> songs I'm playing with my band.<BR>> > <BR>> > Thanks so much 
> for any help you can provide.<BR>> > <BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> 
> > Lew<BR>> ><BR>><BR><BR></div></DIV><!--End group 
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CMOS battery, BIOS is that it powers.



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--- Dennis Rowand <denyrow@...> wrote:

> If your computer has USB ports (Most new ones do)
> you can get a midi to USB 
> convertor. Much easier to use than the game port. My
> Dell did not come with 
> a game port so I bought the midi USB and it works
> fine. Mine is made by M- 
> Audio and has a USB connection on one end and two
> midi cables (in/out) on 
> the other. Very simple to use. Good luck. If your
> K-4 has NO sounds at all, 
> the battery might have died. It is a flat cell like
> a BIOS battery in a 
> computer. On my K-1, the battery was soldered in
> place and I had to get a 
> flat cell with leads tack welded on. DO NOT try to
> solder leads to the 
> battery. They fry very quickly and might even
> explode!
> Good luck.
> 
> Deny
> Miami, Fl.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alastor" <alastor32@...>
> To: <kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of
> advice.
> 
> 
> > Hi, yaros,
> >  I'm a newbie and bought a used K4 too. Mine had
> patches in, but I could 
> > use K4win. You should have to use a MIDI cable
> that has the IN-OUT plugs 
> > in one end, and and joystick connector in the
> other one. This sounds 
> > weird, but you need that connector to plug it in
> your joystick port of 
> > your soundcard if you don\ufffdt have MIDI connector.
> Just remember to plug the 
> > IN jack in the OUT intake of your K4 and the OUT
> jack in the K4 IN intake.
> >  If you have any doubt, just follow this link to
> see how the cable looks.
> >
> >  http://www.pccables.com/05010.htm
> >
> >  I hope this helps. Enjoy!
> >
> >  Jose Angel
> >
> > yaros227 <yaros227@...> escribi\ufffd:
> >          Hi,
> >
> > I am more of a newbie than the first guy. I just
> bought a used K4 and
> > found out there are no presets nor any patches.
> Please tell me how to
> > load them to the K4. I downloaded the K4win
> software but do not know
> > how to connect from the K4 to the computer. What
> cables do I need? My
> > computer does not have a MIDI connection.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > yaros
> >
> > --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald
> Hawkins" <siregbert@...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any
> parameter in the K4,
> >> and works as a decent patch librarian. You'll
> want to make sure that
> >> you set up the Midi section of the software to
> use the midi ins and
> >> outs that are connected to the K4, and set the
> channel number
> >> (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send
> and receive sysex
> >> messages on.
> >>
> >> I registered this shareware, I was so impressed
> with it. I think
> >> registration used to be a requirement for editing
> the effect and drum
> >> parameters but last time I downloaded it, it
> seemed to be fully
> >> functional right off the bat without my having
> entered my
> >> registration key. I'd suggest registering anyway,
> it's cheap, and
> >> it's good.
> >>
> >> Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple
> as using the Get
> >> Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank
> commands from the menu.
> >>
> >> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2"
> <l_husky@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I'm new to the group and new to editing and
> downloading to a K4 and
> >> > will apolagize in advance for my lack of
> knowledge. If anyone can
> >> > answer a few of my questions it would be a
> great help.
> >> >
> >> > I have recently been using a midi interface
> (midisport) to edit
> >> > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing
> software and was
> >> > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on
> the K4?
> >> >
> >> > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the
> MidiQuest demo.
> >> >
> >> > Will these tools be enough to do some editing
> in the K4?
> >> >
> >> > Can I save the edits?
> >> >
> >> > How do you get sysex files from the computer to
> the K4?
> >> >
> >> > Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still
> available?
> >> >
> >> > Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's
> not a bad word) sound
> >> > out of the K4?
> >> >
> >> > These are probably fairly basic questions for
> you veterans out
> >> there
> >> > but a mystery to me.
> >> >
> >> > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it
> for my daughter to
> >> > practice piano on but have since thought I
> could encorporate it
> >> into
> >> > some the songs I'm playing with my band.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Lew
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Arrakis Crisis Web:
> >
>
http://www.geocities.com/alastor32/Arrakis_Crisis.html
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
> > Llamadas a fijos y m\ufffdviles desde 1 c\ufffdntimo por
> minuto.
> > http://es.voice.yahoo.com
> > --0-349587307-1178693132=:21878
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" 
> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
> > <html>
> > <head>
> > </head>
> >
> > <!-- Network content -->
> >
> >
> > <body style="background-color: #ffffff;">
> >
> > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-->
> > <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="width:655px;
> position:relative;">
> >  <div id="ygrp-msg" style="width: 490px; padding:
> 0 15px 0 0; float:left; 
> > z-index:1;">
> > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-->
> >
> >    <div id="ygrp-text">
> >            <p><div>Hi, yaros,</div>  <div>I'm a
> newbie and bought a used 
> > K4 too. Mine had patches in, but I could use
> K4win. 
=== message truncated ===



       
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Jose / Deny / Keith,

Thanks a lot for your messages. I think it's great for members of 
this group to help newbies like me.

I did buy an M-audio USB to MIDI cable interface and replaced the 
battery (CR2032). Everything works now and I downloaded some cool 
sounds to the K4. Now the question is where to find more patches? 

Thanks again!
Yaros


- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Rowand" <denyrow@...> 
wrote:
>
> Keith
> Yes it is the CMOS battery. However, I guess my reply was more for 
Yaros. He stated that his K-4 had NO patches in it. Usually 
indicates a dead battery.
> 
> Yaros,
> Inside your K-4, I assume (if it's like the K-1) it will have a 
battery that keeps the programs that you stored alive when the unit 
is powered down. If that battery goes dead, you will lose all stored 
programs (patches.) Once you replace the battery, you can reinstall 
the patches and they will keep once the power is turned off or the 
unit unplugged. If you do not replace the battery, you will have to 
load the patches very time you power off or unplugged the unit. This 
includes the factory installed patches. Losing the battery wipes out 
everything. Hope this helps.
> 
> Deny
>  
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: fire sine 
>   To: kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:18 AM
>   Subject: Re: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of advice.
> 
> 
>   Dennis,
> 
>   CMOS battery, BIOS is that it powers.
> 
>   Keith seekwhensir
> 
>   --- Dennis Rowand <denyrow@...> wrote:
> 
>   > If your computer has USB ports (Most new ones do)
>   > you can get a midi to USB 
>   > convertor. Much easier to use than the game port. My
>   > Dell did not come with 
>   > a game port so I bought the midi USB and it works
>   > fine. Mine is made by M- 
>   > Audio and has a USB connection on one end and two
>   > midi cables (in/out) on 
>   > the other. Very simple to use. Good luck. If your
>   > K-4 has NO sounds at all, 
>   > the battery might have died. It is a flat cell like
>   > a BIOS battery in a 
>   > computer. On my K-1, the battery was soldered in
>   > place and I had to get a 
>   > flat cell with leads tack welded on. DO NOT try to
>   > solder leads to the 
>   > battery. They fry very quickly and might even
>   > explode!
>   > Good luck.
>   > 
>   > Deny
>   > Miami, Fl.
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: "Alastor" <alastor32@...>
>   > To: <kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com>
>   > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:45 AM
>   > Subject: RE: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of
>   > advice.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > > Hi, yaros,
>   > > I'm a newbie and bought a used K4 too. Mine had
>   > patches in, but I could 
>   > > use K4win. You should have to use a MIDI cable
>   > that has the IN-OUT plugs 
>   > > in one end, and and joystick connector in the
>   > other one. This sounds 
>   > > weird, but you need that connector to plug it in
>   > your joystick port of 
>   > > your soundcard if you don´t have MIDI connector.
>   > Just remember to plug the 
>   > > IN jack in the OUT intake of your K4 and the OUT
>   > jack in the K4 IN intake.
>   > > If you have any doubt, just follow this link to
>   > see how the cable looks.
>   > >
>   > > http://www.pccables.com/05010.htm
>   > >
>   > > I hope this helps. Enjoy!
>   > >
>   > > Jose Angel
>   > >
>   > > yaros227 <yaros227@...> escribió:
>   > > Hi,
>   > >
>   > > I am more of a newbie than the first guy. I just
>   > bought a used K4 and
>   > > found out there are no presets nor any patches.
>   > Please tell me how to
>   > > load them to the K4. I downloaded the K4win
>   > software but do not know
>   > > how to connect from the K4 to the computer. What
>   > cables do I need? My
>   > > computer does not have a MIDI connection.
>   > >
>   > > Thanks in advance.
>   > > yaros
>   > >
>   > > --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald
>   > Hawkins" <siregbert@>
>   > > wrote:
>   > >>
>   > >> I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any
>   > parameter in the K4,
>   > >> and works as a decent patch librarian. You'll
>   > want to make sure that
>   > >> you set up the Midi section of the software to
>   > use the midi ins and
>   > >> outs that are connected to the K4, and set the
>   > channel number
>   > >> (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send
>   > and receive sysex
>   > >> messages on.
>   > >>
>   > >> I registered this shareware, I was so impressed
>   > with it. I think
>   > >> registration used to be a requirement for editing
>   > the effect and drum
>   > >> parameters but last time I downloaded it, it
>   > seemed to be fully
>   > >> functional right off the bat without my having
>   > entered my
>   > >> registration key. I'd suggest registering anyway,
>   > it's cheap, and
>   > >> it's good.
>   > >>
>   > >> Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple
>   > as using the Get
>   > >> Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank
>   > commands from the menu.
>   > >>
>   > >> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2"
>   > <l_husky@> wrote:
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Hi,
>   > >> >
>   > >> > I'm new to the group and new to editing and
>   > downloading to a K4 and
>   > >> > will apolagize in advance for my lack of
>   > knowledge. If anyone can
>   > >> > answer a few of my questions it would be a
>   > great help.
>   > >> >
>   > >> > I have recently been using a midi interface
>   > (midisport) to edit
>   > >> > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing
>   > software and was
>   > >> > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on
>   > the K4?
>   > >> >
>   > >> > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the
>   > MidiQuest demo.
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Will these tools be enough to do some editing
>   > in the K4?
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Can I save the edits?
>   > >> >
>   > >> > How do you get sysex files from the computer to
>   > the K4?
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still
>   > available?
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's
>   > not a bad word) sound
>   > >> > out of the K4?
>   > >> >
>   > >> > These are probably fairly basic questions for
>   > you veterans out
>   > >> there
>   > >> > but a mystery to me.
>   > >> >
>   > >> > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it
>   > for my daughter to
>   > >> > practice piano on but have since thought I
>   > could encorporate it
>   > >> into
>   > >> > some the songs I'm playing with my band.
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
>   > >> >
>   > >> > Cheers,
>   > >> > Lew
>   > >> >
>   > >>
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Arrakis Crisis Web:
>   > >
>   >
>   http://www.geocities.com/alastor32/Arrakis_Crisis.html
>   > >
>   > > ---------------------------------
>   > >
>   > > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
>   > > Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por
>   > minuto.
>   > > http://es.voice.yahoo.com
>   > > --0-349587307-1178693132=:21878
>   > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
>   > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" 
>   > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>   > > <html>
>   > > <head>
>   > > </head>
>   > >
>   > > <!-- Network content -->
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > <body style="background-color: #ffffff;">
>   > >
>   > > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-->
>   > > <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="width:655px;
>   > position:relative;">
>   > > <div id="ygrp-msg" style="width: 490px; padding:
>   > 0 15px 0 0; float:left; 
>   > > z-index:1;">
>   > > <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-->
>   > >
>   > > <div id="ygrp-text">
>   > > <p><div>Hi, yaros,</div> <div>I'm a
>   > newbie and bought a used 
>   > > K4 too. Mine had patches in, but I could use
>   > K4win. 
>   === message truncated ===
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "yaros227" <yaros227@...>
> To: kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of advice.
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 17:34:59 -0000
> 
> 
> Jose / Deny / Keith,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your messages. I think it's great for members of
> this group to help newbies like me.
> 
> I did buy an M-audio USB to MIDI cable interface and replaced the
> battery (CR2032). Everything works now and I downloaded some cool
> sounds to the K4. Now the question is where to find more patches?
> 
> Thanks again!
> Yaros
> 
> 
> - In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Rowand" <denyrow@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Keith
> > Yes it is the CMOS battery. However, I guess my reply was more for
> Yaros. He stated that his K-4 had NO patches in it. Usually
> indicates a dead battery.
> >
> > Yaros,
> > Inside your K-4, I assume (if it's like the K-1) it will have a
> battery that keeps the programs that you stored alive when the unit
> is powered down. If that battery goes dead, you will lose all stored
> programs (patches.) Once you replace the battery, you can reinstall
> the patches and they will keep once the power is turned off or the
> unit unplugged. If you do not replace the battery, you will have to
> load the patches very time you power off or unplugged the unit. This
> includes the factory installed patches. Losing the battery wipes out
> everything. Hope this helps.
> >
> > Deny
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----   From: fire sine   To: 
> > kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:18 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of advice.
> >
> >
> >   Dennis,
> >
> >   CMOS battery, BIOS is that it powers.
> >
> >   Keith seekwhensir
> >
> >   --- Dennis Rowand <denyrow@...> wrote:
> >
> >   > If your computer has USB ports (Most new ones do)
> >   > you can get a midi to USB   > convertor. Much easier to use 
> > than the game port. My
> >   > Dell did not come with   > a game port so I bought the midi 
> > USB and it works
> >   > fine. Mine is made by M-   > Audio and has a USB connection 
> > on one end and two
> >   > midi cables (in/out) on   > the other. Very simple to use. 
> > Good luck. If your
> >   > K-4 has NO sounds at all,   > the battery might have died. It 
> > is a flat cell like
> >   > a BIOS battery in a   > computer. On my K-1, the battery was soldered in
> >   > place and I had to get a   > flat cell with leads tack welded 
> > on. DO NOT try to
> >   > solder leads to the   > battery. They fry very quickly and might even
> >   > explode!
> >   > Good luck.
> >   >   > Deny
> >   > Miami, Fl.
> >   >   > ----- Original Message -----   > From: "Alastor" <alastor32@...>
> >   > To: <kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com>
> >   > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:45 AM
> >   > Subject: RE: [kawaisynths] Re: Noobie in need of
> >   > advice.
> >   >   >   > > Hi, yaros,
> >   > > I'm a newbie and bought a used K4 too. Mine had
> >   > patches in, but I could   > > use K4win. You should have to 
> > use a MIDI cable
> >   > that has the IN-OUT plugs   > > in one end, and and joystick 
> > connector in the
> >   > other one. This sounds   > > weird, but you need that 
> > connector to plug it in
> >   > your joystick port of   > > your soundcard if you don´t have 
> > MIDI connector.
> >   > Just remember to plug the   > > IN jack in the OUT intake of 
> > your K4 and the OUT
> >   > jack in the K4 IN intake.
> >   > > If you have any doubt, just follow this link to
> >   > see how the cable looks.
> >   > >
> >   > > http://www.pccables.com/05010.htm
> >   > >
> >   > > I hope this helps. Enjoy!
> >   > >
> >   > > Jose Angel
> >   > >
> >   > > yaros227 <yaros227@...> escribió:
> >   > > Hi,
> >   > >
> >   > > I am more of a newbie than the first guy. I just
> >   > bought a used K4 and
> >   > > found out there are no presets nor any patches.
> >   > Please tell me how to
> >   > > load them to the K4. I downloaded the K4win
> >   > software but do not know
> >   > > how to connect from the K4 to the computer. What
> >   > cables do I need? My
> >   > > computer does not have a MIDI connection.
> >   > >
> >   > > Thanks in advance.
> >   > > yaros
> >   > >
> >   > > --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald
> >   > Hawkins" <siregbert@>
> >   > > wrote:
> >   > >>
> >   > >> I use K4win it works like a charm to edit any
> >   > parameter in the K4,
> >   > >> and works as a decent patch librarian. You'll
> >   > want to make sure that
> >   > >> you set up the Midi section of the software to
> >   > use the midi ins and
> >   > >> outs that are connected to the K4, and set the
> >   > channel number
> >   > >> (usually channel 1) that the K4 is going to send
> >   > and receive sysex
> >   > >> messages on.
> >   > >>
> >   > >> I registered this shareware, I was so impressed
> >   > with it. I think
> >   > >> registration used to be a requirement for editing
> >   > the effect and drum
> >   > >> parameters but last time I downloaded it, it
> >   > seemed to be fully
> >   > >> functional right off the bat without my having
> >   > entered my
> >   > >> registration key. I'd suggest registering anyway,
> >   > it's cheap, and
> >   > >> it's good.
> >   > >>
> >   > >> Sending and receiving sysex messages is as simple
> >   > as using the Get
> >   > >> Patch, Get Bank, Send Patch, and Send Bank
> >   > commands from the menu.
> >   > >>
> >   > >> --- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "ottiscan2"
> >   > <l_husky@> wrote:
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Hi,
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > I'm new to the group and new to editing and
> >   > downloading to a K4 and
> >   > >> > will apolagize in advance for my lack of
> >   > knowledge. If anyone can
> >   > >> > answer a few of my questions it would be a
> >   > great help.
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > I have recently been using a midi interface
> >   > (midisport) to edit
> >   > >> > presets on my Bass Vamp Pro with its editing
> >   > software and was
> >   > >> > wondering if it's as easy to edit presets on
> >   > the K4?
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > I have downloaded two K4 editors, K4win and the
> >   > MidiQuest demo.
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Will these tools be enough to do some editing
> >   > in the K4?
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Can I save the edits?
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > How do you get sysex files from the computer to
> >   > the K4?
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Are the memory cartridges for the K4 still
> >   > available?
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Is it possilbe to get a Hammond (hope that's
> >   > not a bad word) sound
> >   > >> > out of the K4?
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > These are probably fairly basic questions for
> >   > you veterans out
> >   > >> there
> >   > >> > but a mystery to me.
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > I'm impressed with the K4's sound, I bought it
> >   > for my daughter to
> >   > >> > practice piano on but have since thought I
> >   > could encorporate it
> >   > >> into
> >   > >> > some the songs I'm playing with my band.
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
> >   > >> >
> >   > >> > Cheers,
> >   > >> > Lew
> >   > >> >
> >   > >>
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > Arrakis Crisis Web:
> >   > >
> >   >
> >   http://www.geocities.com/alastor32/Arrakis_Crisis.html
> >   > >
> >   > > ---------------------------------
> >   > >
> >   > > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
> >   > > Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por
> >   > minuto.
> >   > > http://es.voice.yahoo.com
> >   > > --0-349587307-1178693132=:21878
> >   > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >   > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"   > > 
> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
> >   > > <html>
> >   > > <head>
> >   > > </head>
> >   > >
> >   > > <!-- Network content -->
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