The Logic Off Topic list

Hendrik wrote
>Ah, so the fact that I get flamed 
(and much more about being shredded)

I think Hendrik is a bit sensitive. I don't recall anyone saying he was 
stupid or using bad words in regard to him. 

>Could you please point out to me what exactly I said that earns me 
>this level of hatred?

Why is it taken to be "hatred" when someone simply asks to explain their 
moral judgements? If people feel complete freedom to say whatever they 
want and pronounce judgements, is it wrong to ask them to clarify their 
measuring system?

Frankly, I don't understand the anti-Americanism that was occuring in 
Europe even before the disaster. Sure, you don't like Bush, just as many 
Americans don't either. He put the Kyoto treating on hold - he didn't say 
he was in favor of global warming - it was negotiated before his term - 
and he didn't think it was fair and wanted to offer alternatives. He said 
a bunch of stupid things. But the level of hostility was disproportionate 
to all of that.

But by objective standards, there are far worse things going on in the 
world today - in Chechnya, in China, in Israel/Occupied lands, in 
Afganistan, etc.

France nearly had terrorists destroy the Eiffle Tower, but luckily 
twarted that. However, they have laws that permit more of a 'police 
state' than the US civili liberties have allows up until now. If those 
terrorists would have been successful, how would French and Belgium and 
others in that region feel, if I, sitting here in the United States said 
"well the French are to blame for thier past colonialism in North Africa, 
Vietnam, and even for Napoleon's abuses". That would be stupid and 
insensitive. Wouldn't it? 

Well, turn that around and you will understand how we feel. And I think 
we have been quite civilized in not making any hateful attacks.