The Logic Off Topic list

> At 3:17 AM -0400 10/10/01, Teddy Kumpel wrote:
>> That said, I am American. I don't believe in everything (or hardly anything,
>> for that matter) my government does supposedly on my behalf. Heck, my
>> candidates never get even close to winning elections. I am pretty pissed
>> about how the media controls Americans

 
Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@...> wrote
> But they clearly don't control *you*.
> 
> This reminds me of the statistics where most people rate their
> driving abilities as "above average".

no they do control me to some extent because there are not enough hours in
the day to get the TRUE news. So we try to read between the lines of what we
can get our noggins around and try to understand what the hell is going on.

> 
> 
>> and how our corporate society has
>> gone so far from morality and safe judgement.
> 
> Implying that there was a time when we had better judgement.

true

I think my judgement is pretty good. I can always do more to protect the
environment, but unfortunately the corporations can make more money if they
don't think that way... I ain't one of those people and I know lots who
aren't that greedy that they would forsake human safety for their own gain.
I hope this war gets us out of that trap if nothing else.

> 
>> I think the bulk of Americans
>> are pretty innocent, very naive, relatively happy even without a lot of
>> money and very giving and good people. I also think that about Europeans,
>> Mexicans, Pakistanis and Koreans, by the way. Maybe I'm naive too...
> 
> I agree.  I think a measure of the times is how much importance
> people can place on simple luxuries like for example the next logic
> update, a new computer for their kid, or a little vacation with their
> girlfriend.  And I pray, in an agnostic kind of way, for a speedy
> return to the  petty  values that seemed so important two months ago.

ya... I guess that was a nice time, but you gotta move with the times. this
is world war 3 and it's gonna change ALL our lives FOREVER...pretty much. no
matter what your take on the situation, that is true. Maybe some good will
come of that. Maybe Ralph Nader will be the next president of the US.

Nostradamus predicts (after the events of 9/11 and according to a TV show
made in the late 70's with Orson Welles MC-ing, filtered and simplified
through me who doesn't believe anything)

this war will last 27 years
Afghanistan and Pakistan will no longer exist when it's over
NYC may become unlivable because of underground fires
there will be a thousand years of peace after the war

interestingly morbid eh...

hopefully gracious,
Teddy Kumpel 

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