The Logic Off Topic list

Wilson Zorn wrote :
>As I understand it the issue Giuliani expressed was that the donation with
>the press release made it seem the WTC strike was somehow justified,
>something I've heard GA and others be rather virulently upset about when
>arguments are presented. 

Of course I don't think it was justified at all. There is a fine 
distinction here - which clearly escapes Guiliani also. Although not 
justified, we Americans need to ask ourselves why it that some in the 
Arab world danced in the streets at our loss. And now, as we fight back 
in a very limited and controlled way and precise way, the world seems to 
be turning against us - riots with deaths in Pakistan, India, and 
Palestine, and even several members of this very list who have condemned 
the US in advance. One thing I have learned from this list is that there 
is a huge amount of hatred toward America which most Americans don't 
realize at all. We see ourselves as the peacemakers, the fixers of 
problems, the heroes, the leaders. 

However, much of the world - at least the Arab world, if not also some 
Euros and Aussies and others, view us quite differently. And if so many 
people think so badly of us, we need to look in the mirror and ask 
"why?".  If people hate us so much to spend millions and to sacrifice 
their lives just to kill us, we need to ask "why?". 

The Saudi Prince did something unusual in that he came over, in person, 
and with his money, and as a friend told us WHY. Why is because Arabs are 
fed up watching Palestinians die or suffer for 50 years and seeing the US 
as the only country which sides with Israel in the U.N.  Most of our 
other friends in the Arab world want something from us in return - Syria 
wanted to be on the security council, Pakistan and India want off the 
embargo list, Egypt wants our billions in aid. Here is a guy who asks for 
nothing and even gives to us very generously, and is honest and frank 
about what some of the underlying reasons which lead up to this crime. 
And Gilliani, in essence, shoots the messenger because he doesn't like 
the message.

The fact of the matter is, if there was no Palestinian problem that has 
been left to fester, this tragedy would never have occurred.